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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: M.91]
    #15937815 - 03/12/12 01:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you make your cakes start pinning by waiting til they are ready to pin and they will..

the blueing is probably a sign of it being dry more than anything at this point..

pics would be good


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Luigi on Shrooms said:
Its been 4weeks since i cased what is going on?
i used human manure(mine) vermiculite and coco coir

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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: M.91]
    #15937823 - 03/12/12 01:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

uh... 12 hours of light is prime. If your FC is just one solid tub with a lid then, YES... misting and fanning is a must. I would say to mist and then fan every few hours. If your FC is an SGFC and has holes drilled in each side including the top of the lid and bottom then i would just fan then every couple of hours. Your air pump will not give you enough fresh air thus the reason for fanning.

can you post some pics of this endeavor?


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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: M.91]
    #15937833 - 03/12/12 01:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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how do i make my cakes start pinning?






Evaporating moisture from the surface of the substrate is the number 1 pinning trigger.
Dunk for 24 hours after the minimal 1 week of consolidation.
Roll in verm, fan & mist as needed.


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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: M.91]
    #15937873 - 03/12/12 01:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the dry verm on the cake helps cause evaporating moisture from the cake.
= pins.


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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: M.91]
    #15937882 - 03/12/12 01:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Manually fan, by taking the lid off your SGFC & waving it at your SGFC.
Go buy an empty spray bottle. They're less than $1


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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: M.91]
    #15937913 - 03/12/12 02:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, it's not the same.
Besides, you're going to have a bunch of water all over your floor/table where the tub is sitting.

Fully colonized cakes/bulk are extremely contam resistant.
There's nothing sterile about where I fruit my tubs.


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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: M.91]
    #15937936 - 03/12/12 02:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i keep lid on and remove only when necessary
i have air pump and can keep that on as long as needed

will invest in spray bottle but i think pouring bottled water on them is like the same





Dude, take some advice. TL is trying to help you, but you don't seem to care.

re-read this thread and get to work. JEEZ!


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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #15937957 - 03/12/12 02:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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There's nothing sterile about where I fruit my tubs.




:thumbup:  I'm starting to find that out. I've been doing a lot of overkill trying to keep everything sterile inm the fruiting area but I now realize that if I use enough spawn and it takes off fast enough it'll take care of itself when fruiting.

TL: I've got a few of your mono tub teks going - can you tell me what you do to prep your tubs as far as cleanliness goes when your prepping spawn & tubs? I've been wearing gloves, mask, hair net,  wiping it all down with 70% iso in front of the hood, etc. But that shouldn't be overkill when prepping the tubs & spawn itself, right? I know you have consistent success, how do you do it?

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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: Dr.Tooty]
    #15937960 - 03/12/12 02:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i keep lid on and remove only when necessary
i have air pump and can keep that on as long as needed
i think pouring bottled water on them is like the same





Dude, take some advice. TL is trying to help you, but you don't seem to care.

re-read this thread and get to work. JEEZ!




TL's got this down and he's one of the few experienced members on this board who really takes the time to help n00bs. Pouring bottled water on them will more than likely create a contam vector and over saturate the cakes so they can't breathe.

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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: psychotropical]
    #15937982 - 03/12/12 02:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you use a spray bottle, you get a fine mist, which means there are tiny dots of water that will evaporate quickly.
A large pool of water does not evaporate quickly.
And as TL said, evaporation is a key pinning trigger.

Also, are you saying your SGFC sits in another tub?
If so it isn't getting proper air flow.

You should really just follow PF tek to the letter. Too many people do things they think will help not knowing this is already a finely tuned system.


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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: M.91]
    #15938084 - 03/12/12 02:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Also, are you saying your SGFC sits in another tub?
If so it isn't getting proper air flow





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sgfc sits on top of another tub filled with water with
submersable aquarium heater set to 76 degrees

have an air pump attached thought that would keep air good

whats better for proper air flow




If your SGFC is made correctly (1/4 inch holes every 2inches, and with about four inches of hydrated perlite) all you need for proper air flow is for it to be slightly elevated, about three or four inches above what it's sitting on.


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Re: Mr. Mushroom Man [Re: Dr.Tooty]
    #15938089 - 03/12/12 02:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

All this trial and error has been done before, you could easily skip it and follow the tek.


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