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koraks
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Anonymous said: Never ever take dating advice from a woman. Period.
True.
If you're in the gay scene.
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Re: How to get a girlfriend [Re: koraks]
#15933473 - 03/11/12 02:17 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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koraks said:
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Anonymous said: Never ever take dating advice from a woman. Period.
True.
If you're in the gay scene.
people just don't get it...
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koraks
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Take a minute to explain that comment please.
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Anonymous said: Never ever take dating advice from a woman. Period. It is the fastest way to friend zones and sexual frustration.
Awww thats cute! You believe in a friend zone! The few guys I've had FWB were pretty close friends of mine. The guy I was in a long term relationship with was a close friend for a few years. The dude I had a fling with recently was also a longtime friend....
POP goes your little bubble
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Re: How to get a girlfriend [Re: koraks]
#15933686 - 03/11/12 03:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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koraks said: Take a minute to explain that comment please.
Ok but first…
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Uzziel said:
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Anonymous said: Never ever take dating advice from a woman. Period. It is the fastest way to friend zones and sexual frustration.
Nah yer wrong. Comments like this show just how much of a virgin yah really are. Good thing you posted anonymously, wouldn't want people to know how bright you are. Thinking males are somehow inherently more inclined to know what the hell we are doing. Ego much? Nah... just a virgin.
Uzziel. I saw your picture bro, you’re a good looking guy so you really don’t count. You have no idea what it’s like for us average looking folks to attract a good looking girl. Sure you can take advice from women because they are ALREADY attracted to you; attraction isn’t something you have to build purely out of your personality because you have that pretty face..
You giving advice to people that can’t find a girlfriend is a misnomer, because you probably don’t struggle with it and have therefore, never really had to put a lot of thought and effort into it.
Now… koraks, why most people shouldn’t take the advice of women:
There is a chance that a women will truly understand attraction and give you advice that is beneficial, but this rarely happens and unless you know which advice is good and which is bad you will be at a disadvantage so as a general rule of thumb I say NEVER take advice form a women.
A man becoming full of masculine energy is a threat to the female power structure, and when the woman’s sweet little “guy friend” asks her how to attract women the last thing she is going to do is tell him how to truly accomplish it. In a woman’s eyes becoming a sexual threat, player, or heartbreaker is worse than clubbing babies. Women want all of the sexual power when it comes to dating, somehow, its ok for them to be heart breakers but when a guy does it its considered taboo.
This is probably built on all of their experiences dating men who have a lot of masculine energy, and ultimately broke their heart, which is quite common as these men tend to have many options. Women date these men, far more than they even admit or know, yet they will never tell you how to BE this guy. Because they like you just the way you are, comfortably in the friend zone non-threatening to their sexual power over you.
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TTT
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What the fuck? That's fucking nuts.
I give my friends the most honest advice possible! I love my homies, I want them to get what they want. I haven't been that attracted to the guys I've been with and grew to be most fond of. They were shy, introverted (except for one), nerdy dudes, and usually not that great looking but I had fun with them, they made me smile, we liked similar music, similar drugs, similar interests...we could be friends, so attraction was built from that.
I want my friends to be happy. I am not self absorbed enough to understand what this female power structure is
Edited by TTT (03/11/12 03:26 PM)
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pwnasaurus
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Re: How to get a girlfriend [Re: TTT]
#15933779 - 03/11/12 03:31 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah Anon#1, I have no fucking clue what you're talking about, but my woman friends give me advice all the time, and even wingman for me if I want...
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Re: How to get a girlfriend [Re: TTT]
#15933784 - 03/11/12 03:33 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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TTT your on the shroomery so by definition your not a typical chick. Your ability hang out in this cesspool of teenage males proves that your one of the bros. So you don't count, your practically male by association at this point.
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pwnasaurus
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Are you sure you actually have any women as friends, or are you just making things up and psychoanalyzing the women in your imagination?
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TTT
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Re: How to get a girlfriend [Re: pwnasaurus]
#15933830 - 03/11/12 03:42 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said: Yeah Anon#1, I have no fucking clue what you're talking about, but my woman friends give me advice all the time, and even wingman for me if I want...
This! This is what good female friends should always do. Use our understanding of the dark arts to help out guys we hang out with.
Also I don't hang out with teenagers...I hang out with people who are around 22-25 and I'm 20. Everything else you said is cool by me. I prefer being regarded as one of the dudes.
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pwnasaurus
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Re: How to get a girlfriend [Re: TTT]
#15933842 - 03/11/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said: Yeah Anon#1, I have no fucking clue what you're talking about, but my woman friends give me advice all the time, and even wingman for me if I want...
This! This is what good female friends should always do. Use our understanding of the dark arts to help out guys we hang out with.
Also I don't hang out with teenagers...I hang out with people who are around 22-25 and I'm 20. Everything else you said is cool by me. I prefer being regarded as one of the dudes.
And those are the types of chicks I tend to befriend, because I don't want to associate with bitchy drama queens.
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STR80180
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Re: How to get a girlfriend [Re: pwnasaurus]
#15934646 - 03/11/12 07:14 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can see both sides of this story, and agree and disagree with points on both sides of the whole asshole vs nice guy approach and I think it's kind of a combination of the two. The asshole approach can trick women into sleeping with you, true story, but that's as far as you will ever get because one they realize that you were gaming them and your not guy you made out you were they will hit the hills if it wasn't just some drunken one night stand in the first place, and the topic of the post is how to get a girlfriend, not how to get laid.
The nice guy approach might get you a girlfriend or two over long periods of time, but you will never really hook up for one night stands of some sort of FWB arrangement, which are, let's face the way that many healthy and normal relationships start and you are missing out if your not partaking in such events while single. Problem with the nice guy for a lot (not all of course) women, is that by being a pushover, and doing everything the women says, you become a toy they get sick of playing with, especially if your trying to make this women your girlfriend, you come off as lonely, needy and desperate, now guys, if the rolls were reversed you can not tell me you wouldn't ditch that clinger in a heartbeat. Desperate neediness is super unattractive to both sexes.
Now what I think's key to this whole attraction business from the guys point of view, is be unashamedly a MAN! This is where the line gets blurred with being an asshole, and being a man. For instance, we've had the never compliment women speech or give her a backhanded compliment, in reality the asshole's trying to play on the women self consciousness and make her more susceptible to your sexual advances, you making backhanded comments, even jokingly will sub-consciously implant the desire in her for your approval. The trick to being a man is, be a fucking man! you don't need a women! You need to be completely happy in yourself, alone, living your life to the fullest (a full life doesnt include 12 hours a day dedicated to online forums, COD, and ripping bongs, you need to get out of the house and love your life!) then whatever women that you do meet have to qualify to be apart of your awesome life and then without tricks and mindgames, this girl will try to qualify and seek your approval if she's interested at which point you will be calling the shots like the man you are! Be a man in every way, don't be afraid to want sex from a women, everybody wants sex, especially men, so if you want sex, be a man and initiate it! I would hate to know the number of girls over time that got it all wrong with the shy boy who secretly wanted them but was to nervous to make a move, generally as a rule women will expect you to make a move if your interested, and If you don't they will assume your uninterested and move on (possibly to one of your friends making the whole thing silently painful for you out of regret and jealousy), so be a man and make a move! Don't be the first person to bring emotion to the table in the early days of a relationship either, this is women's work, and if you get in before she does, you'll look desperate and like less of a man to a lot of women.
This is my take on this business, it might seem a bit douchey, but I don't feel bad for being a man, where as purposely manipulating a women into bed would definitely weigh on my conscience. And it is possible to be a nice guy and a 'man' at the same time but you need to always be a man over being a desperate lonely little boy. Women are not that different from men at all, but guys love to psych themselves out. We've all been there, you live and you learn an move on, grow some balls and be a man!!
Just my $0.02
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Re: How to get a girlfriend [Re: STR80180]
#15934676 - 03/11/12 07:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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STR80180 said: The trick to being a man is, be a fucking man! you don't need a women! You need to be completely happy in yourself, alone, living your life to the fullest (a full life doesnt include 12 hours a day dedicated to online forums, COD, and ripping bongs, you need to get out of the house and love your life!) then whatever women that you do meet have to qualify to be apart of your awesome life and then without tricks and mindgames, this girl will try to qualify and seek your approval if she's interested at which point you will be calling the shots like the man you are! Be a man in every way, don't be afraid to want sex from a women, everybody wants sex, especially men, so if you want sex, be a man and initiate it!
I may or may not agree with the rest of your post, but this part is spot on!
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koraks
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Anonymous said: Now… koraks, why most people shouldn’t take the advice of women:
There is a chance that a women will truly understand attraction and give you advice that is beneficial, but this rarely happens and unless you know which advice is good and which is bad you will be at a disadvantage so as a general rule of thumb I say NEVER take advice form a women.
Ok, I sort of see your point. Not the bit about the masculine and female energy btw; if that helps you deal with this, then fine, but IMO it's bollocks. Nevertheless, you have a point if you say that it can sometimes be difficult to interpret what someone says to you. In particular, if a woman gives you dating advice, then it's good to keep in mind that it's the advice this particular woman gives to you at this particular moment. In other words: other women may have different opinions, the woman in question may be withholding/distorting information (from) you, and she may have a bad day or has little experience herself. But using those considerations as a reason just to disregard anything a woman tells you in terms of dating is just stupid - you're going to miss a lot of important clues that way. I really don't see how you could advise anyone to disregard the viewpoint of the gender you're trying to date...how short-sighted can you be? The world isn't divided in two big halves with only incidental interactions. We're all people, except that some happen to have a pair of nuts and others have a pair of jugs.
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