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1st time agar[pics of items] will it work?
    #15935527 - 03/11/12 10:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

gonna try agar-well without the agar-will thttp:// his work?the shroom pic is of the only thing i got off last grow of bout 20 cakes- i love that pic


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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #15935573 - 03/11/12 10:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What's with the stevia and the bread yeast?


I've never seen agar without agar actually work.  Please post pics of your progress.

With real agar the myc only grows across the surface.

With the alternate stuff the myc grows into it.  You're basically just making a really thin cake which you then take pieces of to transfer.

Give it a try  but it probably would have been better just to order some real agar off the internet.

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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Beefy1]
    #15935597 - 03/11/12 10:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Beefy1 said:it probably would have been better just to order some real agar off the internet.




:whathesaid:

nice cake by the way!,thats something to be proud of right there.
what was the strain?


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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Beefy1]
    #15935607 - 03/11/12 10:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

stevia is dextrose-i cant find agar ANYWHERE-and imma broke fella-sooo


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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15935619 - 03/11/12 10:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ecuador man-it was the 1 i rushed along-had alot more cakes JUST starting to friut and had to shut it down--but im back jack-and tha fog has lifted


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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #15935626 - 03/11/12 10:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Mr. Wilson said:
stevia is dextrose-i cant find agar ANYWHERE-and imma broke fella-sooo




Stevia is dextrose?  ::freshwtf:wtf:

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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Beefy1]
    #15935664 - 03/11/12 10:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

INGREDIENTS:Dextrose,Stevia Extract [Rebiana]------------word for word---word?


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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #15935674 - 03/11/12 10:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Understood.

You've got dextrose and stevia extract.

I know what dextrose does.

What the fuck does the stevia do for mushroom cultivation?

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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Beefy1]
    #15935675 - 03/11/12 10:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

mr. wilson i see your right next door,
so this place can mail you a free mag,and have it at your front door in a few weeks
www.homesciencetools.com
they got a agar kit for $28.95 comes with 20 petri dishes and 250ml of dehydrated agar.
just a buncha shit for mycology in this mag,shits pretty low key aswell :thumbup: enjoy!


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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #15935678 - 03/11/12 10:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

theres unflavored gelatin,potato flakes with no butter-flavorings or any other BS--all the agar-agar does is make it gel up right?


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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #15935697 - 03/11/12 10:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the stevia is a simple plant sugar-this stuff says its 100% natural-aqll the other stuff had all kinds sulfite-ish preservatives and shit in them


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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #15935713 - 03/11/12 10:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Gelatin will not work. Just so you save yourself some time. Many have tried, none have succeeded. Dextrose would work alone, but stevia included will not work. Stevia has no calories, meaning that it isn't broken down into nutrients. I am not sure mushrooms will be able to digest the stevia. Humans can't.

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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: mikesethnobotany]
    #15935725 - 03/11/12 11:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

damn damn damn--ahh well---has to be agar agar huh? and is dextrose not also corn starch?


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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #15935734 - 03/11/12 11:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

dextrose would work for sure. but the stuff you have isn't 100% dextrose so you may have to increase the amount of it you use to compensate. And yes, agar agar is what you need. Most asian markets have agar flakes and every health food store should have either the powder in a bulk spices section, or they will have the flakes near the oriental stuff. Shouldn't be to hard to find.

Good Luck!

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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: mikesethnobotany]
    #15935743 - 03/11/12 11:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Gelatin turns to liquid when myc starts to grow.

The yeast and the stevia/dextrose are totally unnecessary.

Dextrose is not corn starch.  Dextrose is the d- stereoisomer of glucose.  Simple sugar. Your potato flakes contain all the dextrose you need. Adding more is asking for trouble.

I think you'd be better off just making thin cakes out of the potato flakes and brown rice flour.

What recipe are you using?

This is the agar alternative I was thinking of.  I have still never actually seen it work though.

http://www.shroomery.org/8514/Agar-substitute

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Re: 1st time agar[pics of items] will it work? [Re: Beefy1]
    #15935777 - 03/11/12 11:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ok ok im getting it-tell me more----im to recieve some prints from a very nice guy from here--and from what i gather it has to be started this way-i really dont want to waste such a gracious gift---sooo-i really only have experience with the pf cakes---PDA is potato,dextrose agar right? potato with dextrose

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