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New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez 3
#15932868 - 03/11/12 11:20 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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A close personal friend of mine happened upon a strain of Ps. mexicana while traveling in Huatla de Jimenez, which he collected within about 200 yards of the former dwelling of Maria Sabina. This strain is a very prolific fruiter and of superior quality. The effects are marked by a deep mental clarity, serenity, and magical quality unlike anything else.
As we all know, cultivating Ps. mexicana requires good airflow, high humidity, and proper lighting. I have found the following setup to be perfect for cultivation of this species:
This uses a 32L Really Useful Box that I picked up from Office Depot:
www.reallyusefulproducts.co.uk/usa/html/onlineshop/rub/b32_0litreUS.php
The humidity source is an Imagine Gold Tropic Aire Humidifier Air Exchanger:
www.amazon.com/Imagine-Gold-Tropicaire-Humidifier-Exchanger/dp/B000634980/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
Which is powered by a Rena Air 300 air pump:
www.amazon.com/RENA-AIR-300-PUMP/dp/B000255MVA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1331486285&sr=1-1
Using a 15/64 inch bit, I drilled a single hole near the top, which lines up with the hole already present in the snap handle and lid. This size hole perfectly allows the plastic airline tubing to fit securely and snugly into the box.
This is a shot of the total setup:

Here you can see where the hose fits through the handle into the side of the box:

A shot from inside the box, which shows how the dispersing tube fits:

And another from the side of the box to show how the hose fits through the hole in the handle, the lid, and into the box:

Another shot from the top of the box:

I prefer electronic sensors to estimate humidity and temperature:

And a GE 6500K Daylight CFL light source works best in my experience:

Here is a shot of the CN-Mexicana strain in it's early stages:

And of a culture my friend, the traveler collector, fruited:

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Edited by elfstone (03/25/12 03:33 PM)
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: elfstone]
#15933071 - 03/11/12 12:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking very nice.
Im just about to fruit some ATL#7 but they are not giving me an even pinning. I just get some shrooms in the corner of the tray and same thing in another tray. Maybe the air humidifier setup you are using is worth a try, my problems may be because of not enough humidity.
Does this variety of P.Mexicana produce stones?
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: Mateo]
#15933197 - 03/11/12 01:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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It produces stones, yes, as well as the Jalisco. I have found the stones of all the mexicana to be nauseating and not worth the effort. The carpophores, on the other hand, are the most superior mushrooms I have ever consumed.
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: Mateo] 1
#15933231 - 03/11/12 01:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey mateo ... There are one of two possible solutions to the situation you are describing with the atl7/galindoi. The sort of primordia-pattern you describe on the casing layer is not uncommon when the ambient humidity levels are not sufficiently high enough to sustain an even pinset. The general principle upon which elfstone's fruiting chamber works would certainly address this possibility. The other possibility is that you simply need to give them time. Often pins will initially develop around the edges and then form towards the center.
I made the original collection on the ps. mexicana featured in this post, and yes they do indeed appear to form sclerotia. Sclerotia formation seems to be largely contingent on the sort of substrate used. This particular strain of mexicana did not do well on a straight-grain substrate, but thrived on a mixed substrate that included a predominance of rye grass seed as well as supplemental rye grain (for moisture content), oatmeal (which I believe is important for solid fruiting and sclerotia formation in mexicana) and rye or wheat bran.
Sclerotia formation does not really distinguish this particular strain of mexicana. Having personally spent the last 20 years of my life cultivating, eating and experimenting with all the various strains and species of psilocybin mushroom, what makes this particular strain of mexicana exceptional is it's outstanding purity, potency and productivity in the fruiting bodies. Having experimented with several of the sclerotia-producers, my general observation has been that the carpophores/fruiting bodies are themselves far superior in terms of the quality and depth of the experience itself.
I have observed this strain to be significantly more potent than what is typical of ps. mexicana, though my sensitivity has increased dramatically over the years. From what I can tell, this strain of mexicana is three times the potency of your average cubensis and infinitely purer. With the above fruiting-medium, I yielded 60grams of dry carpophores from 3 quart jars. In terms of psilocybin content, that is the rough equivallent of 180 grams of dried cubensis from only 3 quart jars. Considered thusly, this strain of mexicana is the purest and most efficient producer of clean, organic psilocybin I have ever worked with.
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: elfstone]
#15933688 - 03/11/12 03:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
elfstone said: It produces stones, yes, as well as the Jalisco. I have found the stones of all the mexicana to be nauseating and not worth the effort. The carpophores, on the other hand, are the most superior mushrooms I have ever consumed.
Elfstone
Very nice! Thanks for posting. I'll send you any edible culture in my collection for a print.  RR
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: elfstone]
#15933768 - 03/11/12 03:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very cool... I would like to trade for a print as well.
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: elfstone]
#15933878 - 03/11/12 03:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very nice elfstone and piltzintli! Beautiful mushrooms and great fruiting performance. I'm going to start this on agar tonight or tomorrow at the latest, thanks for the slide. Can't wait to see this in action
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: stonesun]
#15933981 - 03/11/12 04:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Most Excellent!
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: Mr. Bojangles]
#15934248 - 03/11/12 05:21 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: Hacendado]
#15936584 - 03/12/12 07:35 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15938013 - 03/12/12 02:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very nice with a P.Mexicana with the excilent properties you describe piltzintli. Do you think the 'outstanding purity, potency and productivity in the fruiting bodies' is just a feature of this variety of P.Mexicana or can it be a result from the substrate you guys are using?
As for my ATL#7 problem with only pinning in the corners of the trays, it may be the humidity or it can be a time issue as this is first flush. Can the fact that i took out the stones in the ryegrains before making my trays, have any thing to do with my pinning problems and does it have any effect on how good fruting you get?
Very nice to read about your new variety of mexicana, i wish i had a print or something intresting to trade for one, but i guess that what i have in my collections aren't of intrest to you experienced pro's.
Only thing intresting i have got is an unidentified psilocybe from Thailand who a friend of mine picked when he was over there. But it isn't even shure it is potent enough to be of intrest. My friend has grown it once and he say it was kind of weak, but atleast it is a psilocybe for sure. I shall try to grow it when some of my current projects is finished and give me the space.
Keep posting plz, this is very intresting. More pictures would me very nice too.
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: elfstone]
#15938529 - 03/12/12 04:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice!
You don't see too many Ps. Mexicana flushes like that
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: Wing]
#15945729 - 03/14/12 10:42 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is great stuff!
Those are generous sporulators as well.
Thanks for sharing.
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: Javadog]
#15945902 - 03/14/12 11:35 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very nice. That flush is great
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: truskool]
#15949221 - 03/15/12 12:22 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: mycoelf]
#15949829 - 03/15/12 05:57 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wish my ATL#7 could have a flush like that.
I have made a grow with only colonized ryegrains as substrate, and a casinglayer. Anyone know if taking the stones out of the ryegrains before making the trays can have a bad effect on the formation on fruitbodies?
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: Mateo]
#15949835 - 03/15/12 06:08 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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So how did you do it? You show your FC in great detail but nothing about whether it is spawned straight cased?
Whats that casing? 50/50?
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Edited by truskool (03/15/12 06:11 AM)
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: truskool]
#15952645 - 03/15/12 07:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grown out on MEA from Fungi Perfecti, spawned to 130g ryegrass seed + 20g Irish Steel Cut Oats and 150ml distilled water, with a pinch of gypsum.
Casing is straight peat moss with calcium carbonate 10:1 ratio.
Here is an updated photo of the two trays currently being fruited:


This is my first time fruiting this strain. Our source tells me that the second flush will fruit more normally, while the first flush has more of a tendency to bend over. We shall see. The fruits are quite large, actually, with about 6" stems.
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Edited by elfstone (03/25/12 03:37 PM)
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: elfstone]
#15952698 - 03/15/12 08:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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i still like them all even with the long stem it looks like lots of fun
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Re: New strain of Ps. Mexicana from Eastern slope of Chicon Nindo in Huatla de Jimenez [Re: truskool]
#15954241 - 03/16/12 04:35 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stones will actually turn into mushroom eventually, one they're cased with the rest of the substrate. BTW - the galindoi strain is being cultivated by growers in Huatla de Jimenez and employed by the people living there. Apparently it is well appreciated.
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