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Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price...
#15930920 - 03/10/12 08:34 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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Good evening Pub,
I just hung up the phone on my cousin because I got pretty angry/annoyed with a favor he wanted me to do. He is selling 2 PS3 games (Battlefield 2 and 3) as a bundle. He has two bidders and the current bid is 26.00 bucks, it ends in 2 hours. So he calls me and asks me to sign on to my ebay account and place a bid so that the price can go up. I'm very hesitant of doing this because I don't want negative backlash, if there is any.
I thought it would be a reasonable amount he would want me to bid like 30.00, but he asked me to place a bid of 60.00, which pissed me off cus that's fucking so obvious that I'm just bidding to mark up the price. He kept assuring me that ebay doesn't go around checking transactions and that if I win he wont report me for not paying.
I was pretty pissed that he asked me to bid such an unreasonable amount because I really don't want to be banned from ebay or anything...I did place the bid for 60.00 only because he is my cousin and he always does stuff for me but I was really not happy about it. Am I overreacting? or are there real repercussions for what my cousin asked me to do? Like can ebay tell who makes false bids and can I get in trouble for doing what I did?
He says that everyone on ebay does this...I told him that next time why doesn't he just make dummy accounts then. I don't know...the whole thing seems fishy to me, but then again I've never done anything like this on ebay, I've always had fair auctions.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester]
#15930944 - 03/10/12 08:38 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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Call your cousin back and tell him he's a douchebag. And I fucked his mom.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester]
#15930947 - 03/10/12 08:38 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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get him to go down on you and call it even
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: fuel on the fire]
#15930968 - 03/10/12 08:43 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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Yeah forget about the fact that you're totally ripping off some poor sap and just worry about your ebay account
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: fuel on the fire]
#15930969 - 03/10/12 08:43 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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don't worry about it, won't sell for 60 and then he is out a sale and will have to relist, only next time your not going to do him the favor, so its win win for you. Only thing that might happen is he might report u for not paying
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester]
#15931000 - 03/10/12 08:50 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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calm down woman..
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester]
#15931035 - 03/10/12 08:57 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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ebay is illuminati
they all ready know
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester]
#15931077 - 03/10/12 09:06 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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Tell him to make his own account to do it.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: hidenseek]
#15931106 - 03/10/12 09:12 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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I know I overreacted, but so what I don't fucking know what could happen and I dont want to fuck up my ebay account...And yea I know that I'm possibly contributing to ripping someone off and I told him that but his reasoning was that "all eBay auctions are rigged by bid bots". Also I highly doubt anybody is going to out bid me. Turns out ebay has a system in place so that it doesn't show ur highest bid. So when I bid 60 it only increased from 26 to 27...but it says my maximum bid is 60, I'm a little confused by that.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester]
#15931263 - 03/10/12 09:48 PM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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E-bay will try to get it cheaper for you, so if somebody bids 28, E-bay will automatically bid 29 for you. If somebody bids 59, E-bay will bid 60 for you. If somebody bids 60, you won't place another bid. Unless you choose to.
If he wanted more money start the auction higher or make a reserve. I think it's weird to have people try to drive up the competition, although I have thought about it. I wouldn't do it myself.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: bryguy27007]
#15931879 - 03/11/12 12:34 AM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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I don't think you'll get caught, but I would've been more firm in pointing out that the amount he wanted you to bid was stupidly high.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: SbstratAlchemist]
#15931960 - 03/11/12 01:13 AM (12 years, 20 days ago) |
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i bid on minerals, and sometimes i'll bid up an item that i know someone wants who is also competing for another mineral that i want. if i choose to fake out and bid high on the one i don't want, he may loose interest or cash for the one i actually want. it's pretty fun and addicting. i did screw up once and won an item i didn't need, but it works well alot.
i've suspected vendors of doing as you did, and i just mark and avoid those vendors. since i only buy at wholesale prices, they waste my time by trying to make sure they get at least retail value. it's either that or last second sniping, which i'll do sometimes to keep a price low. this screws the vendor though. other auction sites don't allow the snipe feature and extend the auction by 5 minutes when someone bids after the end time to give others enough time to respond fairly.
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Those games, together, are only worth about $40 if they are used. Tell your cousin to quit being a greedy cunt.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Bawks]
#15932409 - 03/11/12 08:35 AM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Your cousin must have a very personally rewarding career.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: wellage]
#15932419 - 03/11/12 08:42 AM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#15932442 - 03/11/12 08:53 AM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: don't worry about it, won't sell for 60 and then he is out a sale and will have to relist
This^
I wouldn't say "everybody does it" because if they did, nobody would be selling anything. I'd ask your cousin wtf he was thinking.
Did you end up winning the game?
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: badchad]
#15932475 - 03/11/12 09:10 AM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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fuck you and your cousin
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester] 1
#15932506 - 03/11/12 09:23 AM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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This is not about getting caught, its about wrong and right.
If you do it you are screwing genuine bidders sideways with unfair motivation. That is unjust.
Don't do it.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Asante]
#15932975 - 03/11/12 12:00 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: This is not about getting caught, its about wrong and right.
If you do it you are screwing genuine bidders sideways with unfair motivation. That is unjust.
Don't do it.
Yea I agree. And I did make a big deal of this being wrong but it's family and he's done things for me in the past that he didn't want to do that were wrong (i.e driving me to TJ to buy heroin) so I felt I owed him this favor.
Anyway, of course like I thought I won the auction. Nobody bidded after my maximum bid of 60. But yes now he learned his lesson that it doesn't work. I asked him why he didn't start the bid at 50 and he said it is because they charge for that. My cousin is on his last year at SDSU majoring in criminal justice so he is pretty broke. His ultimate goal is to go to law school and become a lawyer, so yea he'll do whatever it takes to win; which is a good trait when you want to be a sleazy scumbag lawyer, lol. Thanks for the input guys.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester]
#15933002 - 03/11/12 12:10 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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your probably gona win the bid...
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester]
#15933008 - 03/11/12 12:14 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Fuck ebay.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Drunken_Jester]
#15933026 - 03/11/12 12:19 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
Drunken_Jester said:
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Wiccan_Seeker said: This is not about getting caught, its about wrong and right.
If you do it you are screwing genuine bidders sideways with unfair motivation. That is unjust.
Don't do it.
Yea I agree. And I did make a big deal of this being wrong but it's family and he's done things for me in the past that he didn't want to do that were wrong (i.e driving me to TJ to buy heroin) so I felt I owed him this favor.
Anyway, of course like I thought I won the auction. Nobody bidded after my maximum bid of 60. But yes now he learned his lesson that it doesn't work. I asked him why he didn't start the bid at 50 and he said it is because they charge for that. My cousin is on his last year at SDSU majoring in criminal justice so he is pretty broke. His ultimate goal is to go to law school and become a lawyer, so yea he'll do whatever it takes to win; which is a good trait when you want to be a sleazy scumbag lawyer, lol. Thanks for the input guys.
Lol...he is majoring in criminal justice, so he commits fraud...nice...
Here is what you do...Save printouts of everything..then when he tries to get licensed after law school, send a letter plus documentation to the bar association of the state in which he applies...They'll hold his license up for this.
BTW..it's called "shill bidding." It's a violation of Ebay's terms of service...you CAN get your account suspended for it. Because you won the auction, he will have to pay the fee as if you paid for the games or cancel the sale...if he does the latter, it is recorded. The next time you bid for him and cancel the sale, you'll probably get flagged by the system..
I'm sorry dude, but your cousin is ripping people off..and he absolutely has no business getting into the legal profession.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: detest86]
#15933395 - 03/11/12 01:51 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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detest86 said: fuck you and your cousin
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: DR. PRIME]
#15933769 - 03/11/12 03:29 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: DieCommie]
#15933777 - 03/11/12 03:31 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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DieCommie said: Tell him to make his own account to do it.
I used to do this when i sold on ebay a lot, always got top dollar for my shit. Not their to cut deals
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Enjoywho]
#15933798 - 03/11/12 03:35 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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Basically what you are doing is making a hidden reserve price. The way to do this is with a second account and a sniping service like Gixen.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: demonofchaos]
#15933800 - 03/11/12 03:35 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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I think he might win the bid also.
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Re: Bidding on an Ebay item just to raise the price... [Re: Mafeki]
#15933875 - 03/11/12 03:53 PM (12 years, 19 days ago) |
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It's also fraud, and is completely against eBay rules. If they find out you're doing this, you WILL lose your account and probably have all the money in your PayPal account taken.
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