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MushyMatt
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Anyone mind giving some monotub help?
#15926402 - 03/09/12 07:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey there all, I am going to be starting my first monotub soon, and since I am a broke ass and can't afford a PC at the moment, I picked up this "Mono Tub Fill Kit" from Out-Grow, a fellow shroomery sponsor. I was curious on how big of a tub I should buy for this.
Also, to clarify, I will be colonizing with the Rye Berries, then once those are 100% colonized, I mix together the spawn and the manure and place in the mono tub, and let colonize. Once 100% colonized, let it sit for a week, then add the casing the kit comes with for a casing layer.
I then mist the casing layer every now and then to keep rH up. This all sound right? I have done a lot of searching, but all I get is 6 year old threads with similar questions, but no answers. So I finally decided to make a thread and ask you all.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926458 - 03/09/12 08:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yer good dont forget to fan
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926549 - 03/09/12 08:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes. overkill for one tub. $65 seems a little steep.

these 'work lights' reflect the light right on to your project and are under $10.
good luck.
what comes in the kit? rye, bulk substrate and casing material?
edit. clicked on the link and saw the contents of the kit.
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: uncle_rico]
#15926555 - 03/09/12 08:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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uncle_rico said: yes. overkill for one tub. $65 seems a little steep.

these 'work lights' reflect the light right on to your project and are under $10.
good luck.
what comes in the kit? rye, bulk substrate and casing material?
Alright, where could I pick those lights up at? Do they raise the power bill much?
Also this is what the kit includes.
-Three, one pound bags of rye berries -Two, five pound bags of Manure Based Mushroom Substrate -one, one pound bag of casing
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926575 - 03/09/12 08:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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walmart shop light 13 watt 6500k cfl
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926585 - 03/09/12 08:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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you can get them everywhere ... from Home Depot to Walmart.
they come with a spring clamp for attaching the light to something that is handy.
they will raise your utilities the equivalent of one light bulb ... get a CFL .. daylight 6500k. ... or you can put your tub in a room where it gets natural light.
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: uncle_rico]
#15926607 - 03/09/12 08:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, I plan on putting the tub in my closet so it is hidden from view.
Also, how do you guys keep your temperature at 70F? Do you just keep a little space heater next to the tub or do you use a heating pad?
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926629 - 03/09/12 08:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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does the closet have a light in it?
also: any idea on the average temp of the closet?
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926641 - 03/09/12 08:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you're cultivating cubes, I would skip casing them. Cubes don't require it.
Good Luck!
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926647 - 03/09/12 08:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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turn up the thermostat. space heater & heating pad both bad ideas if its in a closet keep it up high off the floor and b4 you ask a question please do us a favor and because i have seen all these questions answered dozens if not hundreds of times keep up the research there is always more to learn
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926651 - 03/09/12 08:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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MushyMatt said: Also, to clarify, I will be colonizing with the Rye Berries, then once those are 100% colonized, I mix together the spawn and the manure and place in the mono tub, and let colonize. Once 100% colonized, let it sit for a week, then add the casing the kit comes with for a casing layer.
So I know this kinda off topic but I want to ask you if you have had any experience with Rye berry bags? I've posted a thread much earlier today but not one single response I know this is off subject but I didn't want to start a new thread since I already did one today. thanks
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: Shamrocker]
#15926673 - 03/09/12 08:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree about fruiting cubensis uncased.
However, for a first time monotub or tray cultivator the casing layer is a really nice 'shock absorber' .... it retains water so the substrate surface doesn't dry out .. and it soaks up water in case of over misting.
once you get it figured out (by doing it a couple of times), you can go uncased with no worries.
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: uncle_rico]
#15926698 - 03/09/12 09:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's true. When I moved on to bulk I cased my trays at first, then tried it without a casing layer and noticed no real difference.
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don't want to jack dude's thread too bad ...
I have done rye and WBS in qt. jars and bags plenty ... what is your question? PM me.
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MushyMatt
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: uncle_rico]
#15926706 - 03/09/12 09:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shamrocker said: If you're cultivating cubes, I would skip casing them. Cubes don't require it.
Good Luck!
That is what I have read, so I might skip the casing layer.
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punkrocker292004 said: turn up the thermostat. space heater & heating pad both bad ideas if its in a closet keep it up high off the floor and b4 you ask a question please do us a favor and because i have seen all these questions answered dozens if not hundreds of times keep up the research there is always more to learn
Alright, I'll turn my house heat up. Also, like I mentioned before, I did a quite a bit of searching, but I couldn't find the correct answers.
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MushyMatt said: Also, to clarify, I will be colonizing with the Rye Berries, then once those are 100% colonized, I mix together the spawn and the manure and place in the mono tub, and let colonize. Once 100% colonized, let it sit for a week, then add the casing the kit comes with for a casing layer.
So I know this kinda off topic but I want to ask you if you have had any experience with Rye berry bags? I've posted a thread much earlier today but not one single response:( I know this is off subject but I didn't want to start a new thread since I already did one today. thanks
This is my first time I will be using Rye Berry bags.
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uncle_rico said: I agree about fruiting cubensis uncased.
However, for a first time monotub or tray cultivator the casing layer is a really nice 'shock absorber' .... it retains water so the substrate surface doesn't dry out .. and it soaks up water in case of over misting.
once you get it figured out (by doing it a couple of times), you can go uncased with no worries.
Practice makes perfect. 
Thank you all so much for the replies, helps me a lot. I will be sure to keep you guys updated with my grow.
I plan on cultivating some Gulf Coast Cubensis.
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926754 - 03/09/12 09:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Be sure to cover yer sub w/plastic and poke holes for AE. Once the sub is 100% colonized turn your light on and watch for knotting, then case. It might not take a whole week just keep an eye out for pinning!!! p.s. dont case it too thick, about a 1/4 inch will be plenty w/ manure. also keep an eye on tempurtare whilst it colonizes, manure makes ALOT of heat so DONT incubate!! Good luck, and post some pics of yer massive fruits
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15926818 - 03/09/12 09:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Gulf Coast.
here are some GC from a previous grow.
 
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: uncle_rico]
#15929206 - 03/10/12 12:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mrmojoshroomin said: Be sure to cover yer sub w/plastic and poke holes for AE. Once the sub is 100% colonized turn your light on and watch for knotting, then case. It might not take a whole week just keep an eye out for pinning!!! p.s. dont case it too thick, about a 1/4 inch will be plenty w/ manure. also keep an eye on tempurtare whilst it colonizes, manure makes ALOT of heat so DONT incubate!! Good luck, and post some pics of yer massive fruits 
Where should I put a temperature/rH gauge in the mono tub? Any ideas?
So, I use black tape to cover where the substrate is so that way no light hits the sides of the substrate causing side pinning, but I also plan on using a liner so I don't get any water pooling.
Once my sub is 100% colonized, why should I induce light? Shouldn't I let it sit another week to let the mycelium finish eating all the nutrients?
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uncle_rico said: Gulf Coast.
here are some GC from a previous grow.
  
I AM SO EXCITED!
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Re: Anyone mind giving some monotub help? [Re: MushyMatt]
#15931399 - 03/10/12 10:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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MushyMatt said:
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mrmojoshroomin said: Be sure to cover yer sub w/plastic and poke holes for AE. Once the sub is 100% colonized turn your light on and watch for knotting, then case. It might not take a whole week just keep an eye out for pinning!!! p.s. dont case it too thick, about a 1/4 inch will be plenty w/ manure. also keep an eye on tempurtare whilst it colonizes, manure makes ALOT of heat so DONT incubate!! Good luck, and post some pics of yer massive fruits 
Where should I put a temperature/rH gauge in the mono tub? Any ideas?
So, I use black tape to cover where the substrate is so that way no light hits the sides of the substrate causing side pinning, but I also plan on using a liner so I don't get any water pooling.
Once my sub is 100% colonized, why should I induce light? Shouldn't I let it sit another week to let the mycelium finish eating all the nutrients?
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uncle_rico said: Gulf Coast.
here are some GC from a previous grow.
  
I AM SO EXCITED!
Temperature guage outside the tub not exceeding 72f if at all possible,temp inside the tub will be about 5deg warmer.Not black tape, sarran wrap or similar,poke holes for gas exchange, and turn lights on to induce pinning, once it starts pinning uncover, and give FAE and 85%+ humidity
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