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Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom
    #15922877 - 03/09/12 01:47 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have two tubs in fruiting conditions, one on 2/26, the other on 3/1. I think I've figured out what caused my problem-both tubs were moved twice towards the end of colonization, which I think introduced some air at the sides and bottoms which pushed growth there. Furthermore, I did my tubs like TL's monotub tek, but as he did not cover the bottom of his tups with tape, neither did I-consequently, it looks like the area that was slightly sitting off the closet shelf I have them on received light to trigger pinning there. Whoops-all noob mistakes, but at least I can plan better for the future.

So, what I'm looking at now is all of my grow happening on the sides and bottom of the tubs, and only one or two mushrooms growing on the surface. There's plenty of knotting, and one of the tubs looks like it should be exploding, but nothing. What can I do to initiate pinning on the top?

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I've taped up black garbage bags on the areas that had been exposed to indirect light on the bottom, in the hope that they will try to grow towards the available light. I'm particularly worried that the fruits on the bottom of the B+ will rot before I can harvest. Any tips?


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: rodent] * 1
    #15922891 - 03/09/12 02:03 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

there is nothing you can do now man , there fruiting there because the conditions there on the sides are most optimal . ways to reduce and or cut down are as follows .

1.duct tape the sides tp the level of substrate .
2.use a black bag on the inside before putting your substrate to keep light out .\
3. make sure your humidity in the tub is 94% or higher if you dont you will get more side pinning because there is not enough humidity els where in your tub .

should flush fine , they wont rot before you can harvest trust me .


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: skuzzy1232]
    #15922896 - 03/09/12 02:05 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

it also dosnt look like you let it consolidate a couple days after full colonization which is a contributing factor to your pin set :smile:


good job tho .


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: skuzzy1232]
    #15922921 - 03/09/12 02:18 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The GT was spawned to on 2/12, the B+ on 2/14. I originally had EZ Felt on them, but felt it wasn't going to give enough FAE, so I replaced it with polyfill. I have removed polyfill from the top holes in the monos, only leaving the ones by the sub with only a little poly. I did this because when the tubs were moved, moisture from the top of the lid left water on the top of the sub, which I thought was halting pinning. Should I mist a bit and put in more poly to get the humidity levels up?

I figure that the B+ is why you thought I didn't let them consolidate, but from what I've seen, this strain tends to look a bit spottier at times. It had not shown any more growth in days, so I decided to pull the trigger. It's producing bigger fruits of the two...just in the wrong place. :frown:


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: rodent]
    #15923165 - 03/09/12 04:51 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Garbage bag liners are your friend. :thumbup: I know they seem like a pain in the ass to install but just like anything else in this hobby you develop a feel for it over time.


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: rodent]
    #15923206 - 03/09/12 05:13 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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rodent said:
The GT was spawned to on 2/12, the B+ on 2/14. I originally had EZ Felt on them, but felt it wasn't going to give enough FAE, so I replaced it with polyfill. I have removed polyfill from the top holes in the monos, only leaving the ones by the sub with only a little poly.(




I am unclear as to whether this was during colonization?  If so then maybe the FAE is responsible for the premature pinning?  I keep my holes duct taped until ready for fruiting.


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: nynole]
    #15923493 - 03/09/12 08:39 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

First, and foremost, I have never ever taped or bagged the bottom of my 100% clear bins/tubs...  Taping the bottom portion is a complete waste...  Bagging the inside facilitates two things: easier clean-up and reduced side-pinning...  How? Because the liner shrinks with the substrate; thus minimizing the micro-climate created between the substrate and the bin/tub, compared to when one is not used...  However; as warm moisture is pulled from the substrate into the air, then makes contact with the cooler walls of the bin and condenses, that moisture is not recycled back into the substrate, but rather lost as it is caught between the liner and bin/tub...

Light is NOT a primary pinning trigger for Ps. cubensis...


In regards to "what do I do with these side-pins?"...  Well; I usually get a handful worth on my first flush...  I do nothing with them; nothing!...  I only take my tubs through two flushes...  Any side-growth during the second flush with grow on the outside of the old first flush mushrooms...  Thus; they are virtually free of any substrate (in comparison to the first-flush side-pinning mushrooms)...  Since I only take my tubs through two flushes; when I harvest the second flush, I birth the whole substrate for final harvesting of any "hard to get to" mushrooms...


Hope this helps :peace:


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #15924134 - 03/09/12 11:11 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

So, what can I do now to initiate pinning on top? Is it hopeless?

And no, the EZ Felt was in the tubs during colonization, but the holes were taped over with duct tape. After FC were introduced, the tape was removed and the EX felt remained. I only had the felt on there with the GT for the first few days of FC-when I introduced FC for the B+, I removed the EZ felt immediately and used poly instead.


Edited by rodent (03/09/12 11:23 AM)


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: rodent]
    #15924609 - 03/09/12 01:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Placing wax paper on top of the substrate, itself, may help. It holds moisture closer to the substrate and would encourage better fruiting conditions.


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: Brennus]
    #15924854 - 03/09/12 02:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Would parchment paper work in place of wax paper?


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    #15925083 - 03/09/12 03:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: ventastega]
    #15925471 - 03/09/12 04:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

So should I try the wax paper for now, and a light casing layer after the first flush?

I've got a 3rd mono of GT colonizing as well, prepared in the same way. Should I at least try putting a black garbage bag around the outside of that tub before introducing it to FC?


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: ventastega]
    #15926166 - 03/09/12 07:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, so you think my best bet at this point to get the top pinning in both of these tubs is to apply a casing layer and hope for the best? Any killer casing recipes I should consider?


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: rodent]
    #15926406 - 03/09/12 07:57 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Wax paper is used during fruiting to create a micro climate between the substrate and the wax paper.  (i've never had any luck with it but after a few grows i got the handle on making the proper environment on top so i dont even need it)

casing is not needed for cubes.  I've only ever cased straight grain and that was just to see if i could get it to fruit.

If you are getting side pins its because you need to adjust the environment they are in.  They will fruit were the environment is proper.  so if the top is to dry then they wont fruit there.  Side pins are a pain but they do produce some big fruits.  As for the bottom pins this happens you just need to make the top more suitable for pinning.  If it means misting more often and fanning to cause more evaporation on the surface.

Also note i've used all clear tubs with no side/bottom pin issues its all about as i said proper environmental conditions.


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: zepski]
    #15926553 - 03/09/12 08:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have the lights and fan on a timer with 30 minute intervals. Maybe try switching it to 30 min on/off instead of the 12/12 cycle I've been using, and misting 3 times a day or something? This is my first grow, so I'm still trying to figure out the optimal conditions.


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: ventastega]
    #15926710 - 03/09/12 09:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have fine verm, would you suggest 3-5 cups in that case?


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: rodent]
    #15926814 - 03/09/12 09:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Just got home, and noticed that this monster may be about ready to pick?


What say you, all wise Shroomerites?


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Re: Monotubs only pinning on sides/bottom [Re: rodent]
    #15926958 - 03/09/12 10:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

veil breaks is optimal potency ,,, how ever be pretty to let it open but yes you should pick it its ready ..


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