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Offlinefrankfrank
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Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation.
    #15921796 - 03/08/12 08:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My first monotub is giving me a hard time.

It all started 12 days after spawning 4.5 brf B+ cakes to coir/verm following Damion's tek.

The sides started pinning madly ( like 20-30 big pins /side)and I was worried the pins would rot so i decided to put it into fruiting.

As stated in the tek after mixing spawn with coir/verm mix I overlayed the tub with about 1/2 inch of unspawned coir mix. Only that part didnt colonize.

The first mushrooms looked " almost " normal.



Here are my shrooms today :







Why are all of the caps tearing at the top?

Is this contam or overly wet mushrooms?

Only difference in conditions between first mushrooms and the following is the misting. Seeing my hygrometer hitting 70% I started misting and fanning once a day.

I have been fanning them at least twice a day

Any help would be appreciated. I dont want to do the same mistakes with next tub ( spawned yesterday.. 10 days a long time... :smile: )

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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: frankfrank]
    #15921830 - 03/08/12 08:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Im no pro pro but i think you need like 90%+ humidity so your not getting anything because there not in the right conditions. Correct me if im wrong but Good luck sir. unless that is diferent with monos.

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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: Woody02]
    #15921855 - 03/08/12 08:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Your substrate and caps look too wet. I know you said you topped it but the successful "topped" monos that ive seen have more myc poking through the layer than what you have.


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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: Swwert]
    #15921876 - 03/08/12 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Swwert said:
Your substrate and caps look too wet. I know you said you topped it but the successful "topped" monos that ive seen have more myc poking through the layer than what you have.





I know it should have been fully colonized :frown:

Could the layer have be too thick?? Or dried so it couldnt colonize properly?

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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: Woody02]
    #15921882 - 03/08/12 08:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Woody02 said:
Im no pro pro but i think you need like 90%+ humidity so your not getting anything because there not in the right conditions. Correct me if im wrong but Good luck sir. unless that is diferent with monos.



From what I understand Mono's need less humidity. They are supposed to be mostly self sufficient.

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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: frankfrank]
    #15921923 - 03/08/12 08:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

mono's need just as much humidity. The top layer was nixed from my tubs. Ran into the same issue. It's most likely a spawn issue and a half inch was probably to much. next time don't use the top layer and you should familiarize yourself with grains if you wanna jump into monos. Just did 3.

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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: IGetTight]
    #15921952 - 03/08/12 08:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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IGetTight said:
mono's need just as much humidity. The top layer was nixed from my tubs. Ran into the same issue. It's most likely a spawn issue and a half inch was probably to much. next time don't use the top layer and you should familiarize yourself with grains if you wanna jump into monos. Just did 3.




Are those shrooms good to eat?

Tub i made yesterday is made with grain :smile: This time i put only 1/4 of an inch top layer.

I went on vacations on the 18 of feb and at that time the jars where pinning like crazy. Worried that they would rot i spawned them to coir to restart the "colonization" cycle and buy myself some time. The cakes where inoculated on the first week of jan.

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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: frankfrank]
    #15921957 - 03/08/12 08:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

what the grain noc'd with?

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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: IGetTight]
    #15921972 - 03/08/12 08:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Grain was noc'd with completly colonized B+ crumbled BRF cake( from another syringe)

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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: frankfrank]
    #15923695 - 03/09/12 09:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Anyone knows why the caps a cracking???

Are they safe to eat once dried?

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Re: Failed first monotub. Would like to have some advice on current situation. [Re: frankfrank]
    #15923849 - 03/09/12 10:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if they are in fact B+ then they are safe to eat dry or wet

some shroomiez are better then none


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