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OfflineM.91
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    #15914729 - 03/07/12 04:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Jars are Mostly colonized except half an inch at top
(half pint from midwest grow)

anyone use these?

the guide i got says to remove top layer of verm before placing in the fruiting chamber
is this the top layer of vermiculite im supposed to remove.. or is it just uncolonized substrate?

im trying to figure out how to post a pic of my jars
don't have computer only iphone..

Where im at;
inoculated Jan 30, 2012
incubation chamber (ultimate grow midwest)
for 5 weeks Jan 30 --> March 7

today march 7 i dont know if im supposed to birth the jars yet


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Re: Trip [Re: M.91] * 1
    #15914780 - 03/07/12 04:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the top layer would b ur dry verm later it will only b partly colonized it iss not part of ur sub


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Re: Trip [Re: M.91]
    #15914785 - 03/07/12 04:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the top layer is just plain vermiculite. it keeps contaminates out, and has no nutrition to grow mushrooms.

birth them one week after they are fully colonized (the top layer will not colonize)

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Re: Trip [Re: Munchauzen]
    #15914869 - 03/07/12 04:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just remove the top layer of verm. dunk your cakes for 18 hours, roll in verm. and then put in your FC.


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Re: Trip [Re: Munchauzen]
    #15914877 - 03/07/12 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The Bottom of all my jars are colonized so if this uncolonized top layer is
just verm to keep bacteria out are my cakes ready to birth?

they have been in incubation chamber for 5 weeks (85 degrees)
"Maui Platinum Spores"


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Re: Trip [Re: M.91]
    #15914886 - 03/07/12 04:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the top layer of verm. will not colonize. just open the jar, turn it on its side and just lightly tap to get all loose verm off of your cakes.

simple.


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Re: Trip [Re: Shaddox]
    #15915013 - 03/07/12 05:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok

1st Time Grower/ Noob Question

(Trying To Do This Right)

I Understand Dunk And Roll,
do i have to dunk for the first flush?

or can i just pour some bottled water on each cake...

if i must dunk and roll is it better to use bottled water from the store or water
from my sink?

and since i didnt make my own verm do i just roll it in the verm i removed from the cakes?

Any Advice will Be Greatly Appreciated
Thanks


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Re: Trip [Re: M.91]
    #15915043 - 03/07/12 05:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you dunk and roll on your first flush...just dunk on every flush after that

if your tap water is okay to drink, then it is okay to dunk

you dont make verm, you buy it...dont use that old stuff from the jars...it is full of contams, it has been your filter during colonization

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Re: Trip [Re: M.91]
    #15915048 - 03/07/12 05:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yes you have to dunk first, ur sub looses alot of water by the time its finished colonizing

do you have city water, if so that is fine.. I live where my water comes from a well and is very hard water(i can even lite my tap on fire) and is hard om my msy

go buy verm DO NOT USE THE SHIT OFF UR CAKES it wont b enough anyways


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Re: Trip [Re: New HooN]
    #15915273 - 03/07/12 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

is rolling necessary on the first flush or can i just dunk it
i dont have any verm


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Re: Trip [Re: M.91]
    #15915948 - 03/07/12 07:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

See if you can find some vermiculite at a hardware store.


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Re: Trip [Re: 2 cats freckles]
    #15916026 - 03/07/12 08:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you will find verm at home and gardening stores ones that deal with gardening stricktly


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Re: Trip [Re: M.91]
    #15916099 - 03/07/12 08:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ace Hardware, True Value, Lowes, Home Depot, Wally World...just to name a few

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Re: Trip [Re: Durban.Poison]
    #15916867 - 03/07/12 10:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

is rolling after dunking necessary?
or is it just a gimmick?

im dunking my cakes today

wouldnt the mycellium alone keep the bacteria out?

im not tryna  spend a 20bill on a bag of verm if its not necessary...

mushies in nature dont have vermiculite to protect them and my grow kit seems a lot safer/ cleaner  than the forest...


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Re: Trip [Re: M.91]
    #15916903 - 03/07/12 10:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't believe that it is necessary to roll the cakes. You should be fine without the verm. I thought the purpose was to help retain water but I really have no idea as I'm no expert


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Re: Trip [Re: Staplerhead]
    #15917095 - 03/07/12 11:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The vermiculite used as a top layer in the jars acts as a barrier against contams.  The vermiculite you roll cakes in after dunking provides moisture to the mycelium/fruits as they're expanding.


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Re: Trip [Re: fungusapien]
    #15918002 - 03/08/12 06:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

cost $5 to $6 for a bag that will last you for a very long time..its worth it

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Re: Trip [Re: Durban.Poison]
    #15920019 - 03/08/12 02:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just Dunked The Cakes...
All Fresh With No Bacteria

Keeping Them at room Temp for 6 hours
each cake is in its own ziplock bag filled with tap water.

moving them to fridge overnight to coldshock
then placing them in my FC

any idea how long it takes for them to have some magic to trip on?

i got maui platinum and golden teacher cubes

and when i have the dried mushies any suggestion of what dose i should start with?

im thinkin 2 grams of each...

only tripped once b4 and it was psilo choclate candy bars
was told there was an 8th in the bars but i dont know


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Re: Trip [Re: M.91]
    #15920054 - 03/08/12 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You don't need to cold shock your cakes it doesn't do shit


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Re: Trip [Re: Wizzy]
    #15920084 - 03/08/12 02:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How many hours should they be submurged

i heard no longer than 24...

so 18 hours?
12 hours?

or do i just keep them dunked until little mush pop out?


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