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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #15928353 - 03/10/12 04:55 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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He may or may not believe that the drugs found are what was supposed to be in the bottle....you won't be prosecuted for that, however.




I believe that to be state dependent. In the state I live in the requirement is that prescription meds remain in the prescription bottle, with the label intact. That may have changed as I haven't looked into for some time.

It is/was even illegal to use pill organizers... unless the pills were placed into the organizer by a licensed nurse. Even the the original bottles must remain in the possession of the person.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #15928460 - 03/10/12 06:45 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I hear what you are saying, but... a few years back I had the misfortune to be on a grand jury in the county where I reside. I can assure you that people were prosecuted for just that, although if I can't recall if each instance of that being prosecuted was a part of a larger parcel of offenses. I want to say there were at least a couple instances of it being the sole charge, but memories fade.

I agree with your summation of it most likely being prosecutors being prosecutors.

Funny thing is the local head prosecutor has somewhat of a rep for being a coke head. I have no first hand knowledge of it though.

One of the "cases" he handled during my grand jury time was a mentally slow individual who had 2 - 3 seedlings in Dixie cups. Half dead seedlings. He told us he was prosecuting this person to help them. I wanted to laugh and cry at the same time.

The grand jury was a very distasteful experience that I hope to never repeat.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil]
    #15928555 - 03/10/12 07:45 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah. It was pretty clear that not only were we getting half the story, the half we were getting often wasn't even a well told half.

The ham sandwich line is one I've used here before.

I've made a couple posts on my grand jury experience if you'd care to use the search to find them. It was a depressing experience.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #16874062 - 09/19/12 10:39 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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He should check to see if there is a warrant.




And if there is, he should deal with it immediately.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #16874222 - 09/19/12 11:06 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I know he's not going to take care of it, I just wanted to know if it's going to affect me by the cops showing up at our doorstep.




Could. If the cops DO show up for him, and smell weed... or see a bong...

But as Enlil said... unlikely.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: shLong]
    #17131027 - 10/30/12 02:26 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Your lawyer was right.

Keep in mind though... some people buy tax stamps as collectibles. I'm not sure you must possess the substance first. Are you sure that's the law in your state?


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: shLong]
    #17131430 - 10/30/12 03:36 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

So, that's what I thought. A concerned dealer could buy the stamps as a novelty and just keep them on hand if they were needed.

"Legislators recrafted the law, limiting its use in criminal prosecutions and ensuring that purchasers' identities remained confidential."


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: shLong]
    #17131740 - 10/30/12 04:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Without knowing the procedure I can't say.

Walk in with cash?


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Diploid]
    #17205308 - 11/12/12 05:31 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Depends on the state (and the reason).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil]
    #17627482 - 01/29/13 05:32 AM (11 years, 16 hours ago)

That's not true in all states.

Where I live the simple act of passing a joint/bowl is considered "distribution". I can't think of the term they use for the one who accepts.

The things you learn while on Grand Jury duty.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil]
    #17627520 - 01/29/13 05:53 AM (11 years, 15 hours ago)

You're correct.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #17874013 - 02/27/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Enlil said:
The process of repairing and rebuilding will require trust.  Filing and/or snooping destroys trust...they're two separate roads that lead to different places.




You often give good advice. Sometimes your advice is quite far above good.

Those words are priceless.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil]
    #18032985 - 03/30/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

A question Enlil.

Based on hearsay and the occasional reference in an article here and there...

Are high electric bills, or sudden large increases in electric bills the red flag some claim it to be?

Heard anything through the lawyer grapevine? Represented anyone?


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil]
    #18038108 - 03/31/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks. That's about what I thought.

I appreciate the answer.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: joshisstoned]
    #18530770 - 07/08/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

As a landlord, I'll tell you.

It's because we've heard every sob story there is.

We watch people buy stuff, drive nice cars, wear fancy clothes and more while the rent isn't paid.

We have bills to pay. A tenants promise to pay when he can doesn't carry much weight with our creditors.

Some own buildings with an eye to the future and they may not make much until the mortgage is paid off. In the meantime, many live week to week just like many others.

Don't assume that because they own a building or buildings that they are rolling in the dough.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: joshisstoned] * 2
    #18531382 - 07/08/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Landlords aren't there to be your friend. They're in it to make money.

If a landlord was everyone's friend, he'd be out of business.

Do you expect your other creditors to be your friend too? Should your local grocery store/restaurant feed you for free? Free gas at your local station?

It's a business. If your/any landlord needs that money and you don't pay, it's his credit that gets dinged. Think a landlord wants to hear from his bank/oil company/insurance company?

Losing a parent is tough. At the end of the day though, it's not your landlords problem. When they aren't paid, it becomes their problem.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18638328 - 07/31/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Anonymous said:
How can you be so sure they don't?





Because a lot of people post pics of their grow on the internet, and no one is complaining that they got busted due to their posts.




Well... except for this guy. (I haven't heard of any others though)

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130605/NEWS03/130609613

Warrant issued for Auburn man arrested in YouTube marijuana case

By JAMES A. KIMBLE
Union Leader Correspondent

BRENTWOOD — An Auburn man who was arrested for allegedly showing off his marijuana-growing operation on YouTube could be jailed for failing to show up for a court hearing Tuesday.

A judge issued a warrant for Kyle Berry, 40, for failing to appear at a bail-revocation hearing, stemming from his latest pot-growing arrest in Lawrence, Mass., last month.

Prosecutors want Berry held without bail pending his trial on charges alleging he grew $16,000 worth of marijuana plants at his Auburn apartment in November and chronicled his progress on YouTube.

Rockingham County sheriff deputies said they used the videos – which also captured Berry’s face reflected on a foil covered wall – to obtain arrest and search warrants in the case.

Public defender Charles O’Keefe asked a judge to cancel the warrant for Berry, saying his client had simply mixed up the court date.

Assistant county attorney Michael Zaino responded Wednesday by asking a judge to reject that request and schedule a new hearing date.

Zaino said that a Lawrence, Mass., police lieutenant came to court Tuesday to testify about Berry being arrested in Massachusetts for manufacturing marijuana while he was free on bail.

The hearing had to be canceled because of Berry’s failure to appear, according to Zaino.

Berry was arrested at his daughter’s home April 22.

His daughter told police she wanted her father out of the apartment because she was having ongoing arguments with him, and she mentioned he was growing marijuana in his apartment as well.

When confronted about the marijuana smell coming from his apartment, Berry invited police officers into the apartment and showed where plants were growing in his closet, police reported.

Berry told police, “It’s legal. I have a prescription” and handed officers paperwork about the drugs, according to a police report.

But police took Berry into custody, charging him with manufacturing a controlled substance. Police said they seized heat lamps, fans and lights from the closet where 16 plants were found.

Police also seized Berry’s cellphone and applied for a search warrant after using Google to look up his previous case in New Hampshire.

In Rockingham County, Berry faces felony charges of possession of a controlled drug with intent to sell, manufacture of a controlled drug and a misdemeanor count of possession of a controlled drug.

Berry faces up to 7 ½ to 15 years in state prison if he is convicted in the New Hampshire case.


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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Anonymous #44] * 2
    #18640102 - 07/31/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok so some kid stole a half ounce of weed. I can't really do anything about getting it back, and don't want the police on me, but I know his apartment building. My plan is to print off flyers and put them around the building to mess with him. If he's smart and goes to the cops, what could I get charged with, assuming I only say he stole money from my apartment.




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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #18658369 - 08/04/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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In addition, I'm not going to answer any more of your graemlin-filled posts.  You're either going to ask in a cohesive, rational manner, or you're not going to get an answer.




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Re: Ask a defense attorney [Re: Enlil]
    #19230369 - 12/05/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Enlil said:





I have a general question. Has the time been taken by anyone to estimate/research what percentage of people arrested are busted in the "loose lips sink ships" style. You know... the tools that brag about their crimes to friends, family, loved ones or...

If the research has been done, what is the number?

If there is no published research then what would you estimate the percentage to be?


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