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Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn
    #15905335 - 03/05/12 06:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hello! This is my first grow of Psilocybe Galindoi, or Atl#7. It was started from part of a stonesun print, and the resulting 20cc syringe was totally clean :headbang3:
My goal is to take a good stone clone and a mushroom clone, then see which does better for the opposite, and keep that for many future grows. I may also further isolate it some on agar.

Inoculated February 9. Germination seemed to kick off around 5, 6 days.

Here are it's product as of March 5.

The 12oz grain jars are to store for making GLC sometime far later if I want to grow MS without starting from spore.
They're colonizing well, albeit slowly, so all shaken, some sooner than others. The ones shaken sooner are about fully colonized, two of which seem to have mycelium over every rye grain. Yet the rye mycelium is not yet puffy or thick except in a few very small places. I am wondering if my rye is a little much on the dry side.

Going to spawn some to coir trays, and case some with 50/50+. I have worked up a fully-automated greenhouse to fruit in, so there's little point in making a monotub.


These are 5 PF jars. The food is a mix of BRF, WBSF, RGF.


This one already has stones all over, all around where the inoculation points were, is already fully colonized and has been almost a week.


This other was the first to fully colonize, and is SUPER POOFY. The entire jar is completely white and over half of it is flat up against the glass totally white as if the inside were painted. :dancing:  It's been this way almost a week.


Those two jars are ready to fruit and they will be my prime candidates for cloning, especially the thick white one and the stones that I think are right behind its surface.
Thing is, it's difficult enough getting well-consolidated Cubensis cakes out of these regular half-pint jars. I don't want to mess up these nice cakes trying to birth them. If someone has a suggestion here, do please tell. I may just remove the dry verm and case the top of the jar for first-flush prints and clone, perhaps birth the cake after that for dunk and roll.

I see no point in casing or spawning with these cakes since I have plenty of grain spawn going and will be making more with the clone culture. If they consolidate enough to safely birth, I'll dunk and roll them in 50/50+. [Should this be at field capacity for roll, or pasteurized dry?]


Feel free to chime in for any reason! I'd consider fruiting these in different ways if I'm pitched good ideas.


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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: Violet]
    #15905694 - 03/05/12 07:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you discover any special tricks for getting the cakes out of those tall jars can you let me know?  I searched all over for wide mouth half pints, and simply couldn't find them.  I figured that a half pint regular jar would be better than a full pint wide mouth jar.

Anyways, I inoculated them this evening, and am incredibly worried that I'm going to have a really hard time birthing them.

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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: Cruise1687]
    #15906255 - 03/05/12 09:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

@Cruise1687 The tall jars are grain jars if I'm not mistaken, which means they'll be poured out into a bulk substrate. Only the smaller jars are actual cakes. You might have a bit of a tough time removing your cakes if they're not wide mouth. Might end up fruiting cake chunks...

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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: Shanti_Gautama]
    #15906422 - 03/05/12 09:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Having never birthed a cake yet, I am kind of having difficulty understanding why the wide mouth makes such a difference.  These jars I have don't have any shoulders or anything that would "hang" the cake up inside the jar.  Why wouldn't it just slide out as if it was in a wide mouth jar?  Does it have to do with the shape of the cake itself?

I know the wide mouth jars make a short and squat cake, and these regular ones are more cylinder shaped.

I dunno, I guess I am going to just end up trying to find somewhere online to order the wide mouth jars, I drove to the ends of the earth today trying to find a place selling them and had 0 luck.

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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: Cruise1687]
    #15908992 - 03/06/12 12:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I am near where the sponsor Everything Mushrooms is, and they have them, but I've already had these. The wide-mouth ones let go of cakes much more easily - in these reg half-pints the lesser-consolidated bottoms of cakes seem to jam coming out the top half of the jars.


I think I'm gonna remove the verm barrier of a couple jars and add pasteurized casing on top, to fruit from jars now. The ones still colonizing can take their time consolidating - I'll birth them as cakes a month or two down the line.

1/4" of pasteurized 50/50+ good?
I've had trouble with my casings fighting off Trich. Should I re-cover the cased jar with lid until the myc has peeped thru?


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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: Violet]
    #15911595 - 03/06/12 09:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Cracked the two colonized & consolidated jars open. It was impossible to get the cake out due to stones pressing firmly up against the sides, even tho the stones had helped push the cake away from the jar as it consolidated. Had to use a screwdriver to get it out, in chunks.

Cased that under 50/50+ and it's now covered to consolidate casing layer. The heavy-white jar has a new casing layer top and sides duct-taped; there was no space at the jar's top to put it's lid on, so it's already open to the greenhouse alongside 3 Pan Cambo Sandose casings, 2 dunk-and-rolled Cambo cakes in 50/50+, and a similar cased Cambo jar.


Good news about the regular half-pints is that the Pan Cambo cakes fell right out when knocked on the top and shaken. Even well easier than Cubensis cakes, though I bet my month-consolidated GT LC clone PF cakes willfall out just fine :rockon:
My 26 PF jars will now grow a Sandose clone :headbang3:


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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: Violet]
    #15911939 - 03/06/12 11:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Let me know how fruiting from the jars works out for you.

I think I'm going to let these colonize and consolidate, and try to remove one.  If it doesn't come out, I might just break the cakes up and put them into some kind of monotub project.

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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: Violet]
    #15912238 - 03/07/12 12:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Getting cakes out of those jars is a serious PITA.  Ive used them for years cause I cant find any wide mouth half pints.  The only thing ive found to work is to let them consolidate for at least a week so that they shrink then I have to take a knife and use it to go between the jar and cake.  It definitely causes some damage.  Ive tried using oil and other things to get them out easier to no avail.  Is that duct tape you are using to cover the GE holes?


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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: truskool]
    #15912292 - 03/07/12 01:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Those were an idea to have PF jars without a lid. They're tyvek envelope and three inches of duct tape, torn long way in half, to make sure it doesn't dry out. Red-hot needle goes thru tyvek like butter. Dry verm layer keeps the sub clean as always. I used the lids for more grain jars then :grin:

Samw for me with the jars, doing Cubensis and Especially Galindoi. Regular half-pints are Great for PF cakes Panareolus and similar myc Only, and stuff like spawn for GLC, clones to LC, etc.


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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: Violet]
    #15912329 - 03/07/12 01:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So your taping a piece of tyvek onto the jars cover the holes with duct tape.  Then piercing the tape and tyvek to inoculate the jars and leaving the small needle hole?

This is pointless as you stated the verm acts as your filter.  The tyvek will also act as a filter but not with a hole in it.  Duct tape attracts and holds contams like crazy I wouldnt want that so close to my filter.  Plus your limiting your GE.


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Re: Psilocybe Galindoi grow, PF cakes & rye spawn [Re: truskool]
    #15912357 - 03/07/12 01:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ultimately it just serves as a lid. Tyvek isn't taped to lid, it's held over the jar under the ring, and I'm not inoculating thru the tape but thru the open corners of tyvek. Tape is just to restrict drying out. The tyvek isn't needed to work as a filter, the hole from inoc does just like a regular PF jar and the verm barrier defends from contams all the same. Obviously it's worked quite nicely, went just the same as PF always does


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