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mesoamerican
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: obladi oblada]
#15896040 - 03/03/12 07:12 PM (12 years, 1 day ago) |
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I truly understand this problem. In the mornings, I try jot down everything I remembered from what I dreampt that night/morning. Sometimes it's just so difficult to put some of the things in writing at a peice of paper. Th e easier stuff to write down is stuff that totally stood out from the dream such as, flying, a guy pointing a gun at me, people morphing without you realizing etc.. But then there are really abstract symbollic things you can't really explain such as seeing numbers that has music or hearing music with a shape. That's really difficult to explain in a human based definition. I mean that's all you say but there can be really be more to that dream that your mind understood while you were dreaming but when you awoken, your "normal" earth mind can not really comprehend. Same thing with mushroom trips, there is just so much you can jot down to try to remember but since you're also intoxicated, it is harder to keep a pencil still. At the end of the trip, you might have just scribbled or really written something that just doiesnt make sense. During the trip, it made sense but when youre back to sober reality, it just doesnt make sense. So what I like to do, is make trip reports. I might miss a lot of stuff out but I am able to explain the memories that just stood out the most/ most memorable. Even while youre writing a trip report, memories are slowly diminishing as you write. It sucks. Best thing to do, is maybe get a tape recorder and say everything you remember right away before you lose it all. I tripped out about 6-7 times and started less than a year ago and I cannot remember anything except just bits ands peices. But I think this is how it was suppose to be. We, humans, were never suppose to hold that much memory capability., I think it would drive us mad. To recall everything you did in your life, i think would be something or another being from out of this world and that's where we get closer to what we call god. I think god has that capability and god also has all the other special abilities and senses that we only experience when we're tripping. I think "trips" are a glimpse to what it feels like to be this god. Anyway, back to memory.. yea.. it's suppose to be this way.. to forget.. If you think about it, can you guys remember a lot of what you guys did yesterday, two days ago??? Memory is diminishing as we speak. I have no clue what my point was now that I was rambbling here. Trippy eh??
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: mesoamerican]
#15896064 - 03/03/12 07:21 PM (12 years, 1 day ago) |
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To recall everything you did in your life,
There are people who can do that. It does cause them problems operating in the normal world.
I have very good recall of my trips, I have plenty of "favorites" that are as vivid today as when they happened - kind of like other things that were really cool at the time. 
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: Aser]
#15896177 - 03/03/12 07:46 PM (12 years, 1 day ago) |
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Mate I know what you mean. All I can add, if someone hasn't, is be prepared. Keep ipod with the voicerecorder ready to roll. If its a deep journey, ill leave it on and let it capture everything - on an aya journey words will just come out. Bloody interesting to hear what's said the day after.
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: xoanon]
#15896686 - 03/03/12 09:48 PM (12 years, 1 day ago) |
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I wrote a paper once in college while I was tripping. Actually, I wrote it for my roommate. He was tripping too hard to do it himself, and the paper was due the next day. It was about Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury. I hadn't read the book, but he told me a little about it, and I just took it from there. I still remember the title: "Perspectives on Demise: The Wash of Time Over a Southern Family in Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury". Fucker got an A+ on that paper. It really was that good. I'm not trying to brag. I'm just trying to make the point that sometimes tripping really does open the mind and do wonders for creativity. Definitely could not have done that just by skimming text books..
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: BentMind]
#15897185 - 03/04/12 12:45 AM (12 years, 1 day ago) |
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There is nothing to learn but to realise Yourself is all there is.
The rest of it is just a trip. It's real, it's fun, it's absolutely delicious, but it's not knowledge...
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: circastes]
#15897353 - 03/04/12 01:37 AM (12 years, 1 day ago) |
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Bro. You'll lose alot more of your knowledge than what you learned on the actual trip lol Especially on 4 hits of acid, 20 beers and a quarter of pot.
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obladi oblada



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Wow, old thread!
I have changed a lot of my opinions since I made this.
Reality is outside and we are inside. We can't directly experience it. We can only perceive it. Psychedelics alter the perception and in the altered state the things we perceive are just as 'real' as they are when we are in the normal state.
Reality is just a word. If we want to submit to the inefficiency of language we can say that perception isn't reality. We can say that it might as well be. We can say that to alter perception is to alter reality. It doesn't matter. We live in such delusion anyways that we can say anything we want.
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CounterCulturest said: quarter of pot.
this one time, i was on a quarter of pot
and i was so high
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: k00laid]
#15899842 - 03/04/12 04:16 PM (12 years, 16 hours ago) |
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k00laid said:
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CounterCulturest said: quarter of pot.
this one time, i was on a quarter of pot
and i was so high

Not as high as that jenkem you've been doin gets you
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joemolloy
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: obladi oblada]
#15899995 - 03/04/12 04:58 PM (12 years, 15 hours ago) |
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obladi oblada said: Wow, old thread!
I have changed a lot of my opinions since I made this.
Reality is outside and we are inside. We can't directly experience it. We can only perceive it. Psychedelics alter the perception and in the altered state the things we perceive are just as 'real' as they are when we are in the normal state.
Reality is just a word. If we want to submit to the inefficiency of language we can say that perception isn't reality. We can say that it might as well be. We can say that to alter perception is to alter reality. It doesn't matter. We live in such delusion anyways that we can say anything we want.
Wow, man. So in nine months you've come to a vaguely metaphysical, psychedelic-pretzel philosophy where you can poke holes through consensus reality. It's also such a shroomery cliche and just the type of nonsensical thinking that is brought about by saturating the brain with these chemicals.
You've come a long way.
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: joemolloy] 1
#15900086 - 03/04/12 05:17 PM (12 years, 15 hours ago) |
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you know everything he said is true though
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obladi oblada



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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: k00laid]
#15903971 - 03/05/12 02:28 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah that's not from psychedelics. That's from sitting in a chair and thinking for a few minutes. Everything I said IS true, and there is no room for illusion. I wasn't using descriptive words and talking about Yin and Yang and the patterns and symbols in life. I'm not trying to say anything big or sound deep.
What I'm trying to say is that we form these pretzels drugs or not.
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: obladi oblada]
#15904031 - 03/05/12 02:45 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some people just get it.
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joemolloy
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: obladi oblada]
#15904638 - 03/05/12 04:41 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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obladi oblada said: Yeah that's not from psychedelics. That's from sitting in a chair and thinking for a few minutes. Everything I said IS true, and there is no room for illusion. I wasn't using descriptive words and talking about Yin and Yang and the patterns and symbols in life. I'm not trying to say anything big or sound deep.
What I'm trying to say is that we form these pretzels drugs or not.
Don't underestimate the power of these drugs to alter your thinking even if you don't abuse them. The paragraph you wrote about reality sounds like something from the lips of a nihilistic schizoid. What you wrote sounds big and deep, especially if your behaviors reflect that type of thinking. If you are just jerking around with these ideas, be careful because its easy to dislocate yourself once you are psychedelically aware. I'm not being a dick either.
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Re: Knowledge lost after mushroom trip [Re: joemolloy]
#15909266 - 03/06/12 02:13 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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When I try to imagine someone whose behaviors reflect this type of thinking I imagine Lewis Carroll. I suppose there are bits of that in me. But I am confident in these ideas and nothing dangerous has happened yet. I dont see any harm in thinking that nothing matters beyond cause and effect.
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