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Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!!
    #15893486 - 03/03/12 03:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is my first attempt at growing mushrooms. So here are some pics of my beautiful fruit so far after 4 days in FC...


Now I was wondering if it was safe and okay to spray my cakes directly with distilled water to possible increase fruiting??


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15893526 - 03/03/12 04:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Don't spray any pins too much directly unless your spray nozzle makes a very fine mist, it can make them prone to abort. Mist to increase the ambient humidity so the cakes stay moist throughout the
flush, pick off any fruits that are mature enough then dunk the cakes to rehydrate, roll in verm and repeat.

I usually focus my misting to the walls of my FC and only dry looking spots of the substrate, save the real hydration for your dunk

Also I believe spring water is the best choice if you want to get picky with what water you use, but distilled would work fine as well.


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15893528 - 03/03/12 04:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You don't need to use distilled water to spray your cakes. You might find it cheaper and more beneficial to use regular tap water. If you're worried about contams you can dilute a tiny bit of H2O2 in some water. But I've never had any contam issues using water from the sink.

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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: youngspacepod]
    #15893534 - 03/03/12 04:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Don't spray any pins too much directly unless your spray nozzle makes a very fine mist, it can make them prone to abort. Mist to increase the ambient humidity so the cakes stay moist throughout the
flush, pick off any fruits that are mature enough then dunk the cakes to rehydrate, roll in verm and repeat.

I usually focus my misting to the walls of my FC and only dry looking spots of the substrate, save the real hydration for your dunk

Also I believe spring water is the best choice if you want to get picky with what water you use, but distilled would work fine as well.




Ok thank you for the advice.  My spray bottle does makes a fine mist. My FC is automatic with an air stone for humidity/FAE but it seems like it dries the cakes out a little bit, that's why i was wondering if it was okay to spray them.

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You don't need to use distilled water to spray your cakes. You might find it cheaper and more beneficial to use regular tap water. If you're worried about contams you can dilute a tiny bit of H2O2 in some water. But I've never had any contam issues using water from the sink.




Great info. I'm all about saving money. I'll quit buying distilled water!


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: youngspacepod]
    #15893563 - 03/03/12 05:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Don't spray any pins too much directly unless your spray nozzle makes a very fine mist, it can make them prone to abort..





this is outdated info


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #15893573 - 03/03/12 05:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Don't spray any pins too much directly unless your spray nozzle makes a very fine mist, it can make them prone to abort..





this is outdated info




How so? What is the updated info?


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15893620 - 03/03/12 06:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I believe the reasoning is that if pins can survive downpours in nature, direct misting isn't going to hurt anything. IME as long as there is no puddling on the substrate surface (cakes or bulk), the pins will do just fine.

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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: Shamrocker]
    #15893624 - 03/03/12 06:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Nice fruits, I am wondering what is the round red balls underneath the cakes to raise humidity? is it as effective as perlite? thanks


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: GodSpores]
    #15893628 - 03/03/12 06:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I believe the reasoning is that if pins can survive downpours in nature, direct misting isn't going to hurt anything. IME as long as there is no puddling on the substrate surface (cakes or bulk), the pins will do just fine.




So no standing water on top of the cake? I was thinking about drilling a hole in the middle and filling it with water.
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Nice fruits, I am wondering what is the round red balls underneath the cakes to raise humidity? is it as effective as perlite? thanks




The red balls are clay hydrotron. They are to raise humidy and provide nutrients to the cakes. First, the air pump forces fresh air into the chamber's water supply - oxygenating the water and hydroton.
You'll start to notice the mycelium strands from your cakes aggressively growing into the oxygenated hydroton. The resulting capillary effect injects the cakes with hydrated nutrients.


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15893638 - 03/03/12 06:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Some growers use resevoirs in their cakes and swear by it. I've always felt that dunking was all the cakes needed. I just feel that drilling into a cake is just inviting contams. To each his own lol.

FWIW tap water FTW!

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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: Shamrocker]
    #15893645 - 03/03/12 06:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Some growers use resevoirs in their cakes and swear by it. I've always felt that dunking was all the cakes needed. I just feel that drilling into a cake is just inviting contams. To each his own lol.

FWIW tap water FTW!




Yea the dunk has worked great, I'm just trying to get the most bang for my buck so to speak. Experimenting :smile:


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: Shamrocker]
    #15893649 - 03/03/12 06:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Some growers use resevoirs in their cakes and swear by it. I've always felt that dunking was all the cakes needed. I just feel that drilling into a cake is just inviting contams. To each his own lol.

FWIW tap water FTW!




I agree!  Don't make holes in your cakes. YOu are ASKING for contam. Dunk them for 24 hrs.  And mist them.  I have never seen any evidence of misting causing abortion in pins unless you already have a raging bacterial blotch infection.  The little bit of chlorine in municipal water is beneficial for keeping out contam, so use it to dunk and spray. Consider using an automated system with a humidifier and muffin fan if you want more consistant pinsets. 


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #15893673 - 03/03/12 07:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Some growers use resevoirs in their cakes and swear by it. I've always felt that dunking was all the cakes needed. I just feel that drilling into a cake is just inviting contams. To each his own lol.

FWIW tap water FTW!




I agree!  Don't make holes in your cakes. YOu are ASKING for contam. Dunk them for 24 hrs.  And mist them.  I have never seen any evidence of misting causing abortion in pins unless you already have a raging bacterial blotch infection.  The little bit of chlorine in municipal water is beneficial for keeping out contam, so use it to dunk and spray. Consider using an automated system with a humidifier and muffin fan if you want more consistant pinsets. 






Thanks for the information. I think I'm going to wait until after the first flush, and then dunk for 24 hours. Can't wait!!!


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15895239 - 03/03/12 03:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah the spraying part is a total myth. I used to spray the hell out of my cakes and they grew great. Now after making tweaks to my FC I can get away with spraying twice a day because the humidity is retained much better. Other than the distilled water, Nemesis keep doing what you've been doing! You'll do great.

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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #15895570 - 03/03/12 05:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah the spraying part is a total myth. I used to spray the hell out of my cakes and they grew great. Now after making tweaks to my FC I can get away with spraying twice a day because the humidity is retained much better. Other than the distilled water, Nemesis keep doing what you've been doing! You'll do great.




Thank you for the reply mike. It's hard to say if I should or should not spray the cakes directly. I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing i guess. They are growing really nicely. :smile:


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15895614 - 03/03/12 05:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

spraying ur cakes directly is fine :thumbup::thumbup:

just try not to spray the fruits directly its not healthy for them

there is a diff..


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: New HooN]
    #15895625 - 03/03/12 05:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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spraying ur cakes directly is fine :thumbup::thumbup:

just try not to spray the fruits directly its not healthy for them

there is a diff..




Right on man. I'm off to bed. I'll upload new pics tomorrow.  The Shrooms are growing really nice now (day4).  Just added another cake that I dunked yesterday morning. Gonna see how this one turns out. Happy shrooming!!!


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15895636 - 03/03/12 05:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I point directly at them but from like a foot or so above. The mist just slowly falls on top of them. I guess you adjust the height depending on how hard the bottle sprays the water. I like it to the point that you see little water droplets on the fruit body. If you spray too close it just gets the mushroom wet and you get a bunch of standing water on the cake. Anyway this is just my preference, everyone does things differently, you do what works for you.

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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #15895646 - 03/03/12 05:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I point directly at them but from like a foot or so above. The mist just slowly falls on top of them. I guess you adjust the height depending on how hard the bottle sprays the water. I like it to the point that you see little water droplets on the fruit body. If you spray too close it just gets the mushroom wet and you get a bunch of standing water on the cake. Anyway this is just my preference, everyone does things differently, you do what works for you.




misting from above isnt to bad

its the total saturation of fruits that is bad

we just want some evaporation not water build up


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Re: Spraying PF Cakes Directly With Distilled Water? FIRST GROW!!! [Re: New HooN]
    #15897615 - 03/04/12 03:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the responses guys. Here is some pin porn for your viewing pleasure!!! :smile:



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