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Prince Corwin
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First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit?
#15885607 - 03/01/12 12:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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HI Guys I just wanted to get an opinion as to whether or not these trays are ready to fruit or if I should wait. I'm just not sure. This is rye spawned to coir, uncased.
    
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Prince Corwin]
#15885617 - 03/01/12 12:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They are basically ready to be fruited, few more days is what i would say
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Rafiikii]
#15885936 - 03/01/12 01:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you, Sir. I just noticed...the few I took in 'macro' mode came out great, man! You can see all the little details in there. I'm going to have to use that for these things in the future. Great looking pics, especially from a phone. *breaks arm patting self on back"  Thanks, again. Any other comments welcome, as always. ~Corwin
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Rafiikii]
#15886000 - 03/01/12 01:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rafiikii said: They are basically ready to be fruited, few more days is what i would say
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: New HooN]
#15886085 - 03/01/12 02:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do it.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: New HooN]
#15886089 - 03/01/12 02:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice work hard parts done would be nice if you give em three days to consolidate but you can fruit if you like .
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15886842 - 03/01/12 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the input, guys. I can wait till the weekend to move to FC if that's going to be beneficial. This freakin' hobby is surely teaching me the meaning of 'patience'.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Prince Corwin]
#15886907 - 03/01/12 05:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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RR says that if you let it consolidate that there will be a pretty substantial difference in pinning so waiting is better ,.IMO
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15886953 - 03/01/12 05:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What tek did you use? Also that's a nice looking tray! How long have you had that incubating for?
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Woody02]
#15887089 - 03/01/12 06:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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patience grrr is the worst part!!
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: herfy]
#15887136 - 03/01/12 06:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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herfy said: patience grrr is the worst part!!
Yeah. It's not so bad though if you already have a nice supply of mushrooms to tide you over.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Kizzle]
#15887251 - 03/01/12 06:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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looks good man fruit that sucker!
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: billy]
#15887684 - 03/01/12 08:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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A friend's last grow was wildly successful, her trays looked a lot like that when she fruited. I say if it has been at least 7 days in colonizing stage, go ahead. You'll still probably wait another 4-6 days to see pins..
Or you could let it get a little more stable and have better defenses against contam.
My friend didn't have a problem after 7 days, and her trays were deeper. So it's up to your best judgement.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: billy]
#15887687 - 03/01/12 08:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They're ready. And considering you have introduced fresh air, you have put them into fruiting conditions whether you like it or not.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Woody02]
#15887795 - 03/01/12 08:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What tek did you use? Also that's a nice looking tray! How long have you had that incubating for?
Damion5050's coir tek, with coffee grounds and gypsum added. Then layered in rye spawn pretty much the way RR shows in the horse poo bulk sub video. I just used the coir mix instead of poo. Didn't case as I read a number of places here and on myko-tek that coir was self-casing. I figured less steps is less to mess up, usually.
I spawned to the coir on the 14th. So, 15 days plus whatever time the grain took when I did all the G2G's. But, I don't think that was part of your question anyway.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Prince Corwin]
#15889610 - 03/02/12 09:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Prince Corwin said:
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What tek did you use? Also that's a nice looking tray! How long have you had that incubating for?
Damion5050's coir tek, with coffee grounds and gypsum added. Then layered in rye spawn pretty much the way RR shows in the horse poo bulk sub video. I just used the coir mix instead of poo. Didn't case as I read a number of places here and on myko-tek that coir was self-casing. I figured less steps is less to mess up, usually.
I spawned to the coir on the 14th. So, 15 days plus whatever time the grain took when I did all the G2G's. But, I don't think that was part of your question anywal ~C
Well my question is I have some brf jars that are 100% and I'm going to fruit 8 of them as cakes and the other two I have I want to make a tray. Is this possible? I would use the tek that you mentioned
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#15889838 - 03/02/12 10:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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TheEaglesGift said: They're ready. And considering you have introduced fresh air, you have put them into fruiting conditions whether you like it or not.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Woody02]
#15891249 - 03/02/12 04:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, I used two quarts of rye spawn each and roughly ½ brick of coir for those 2 trays, just a bit more than that. (so on Damion5050's tek, you'd do half the verm, water etc. to get the amount needed for the 2 9x12x3"deep pans.) I don't think 1 or 2 ½ pint brf jars would be enough for a decent show. It would take forever to colonize and probably wouldn't be any better than if you'd just fruited with the rest as cakes.
I'd say just keep 'em with the rest of your cakes. The humidity seems to stay up better when the SGFC is full anyway. If I put less than the full 12 brf cakes I can fit in my FC, it becomes a huge pain trying to maintain any kind of humidity. Plus, the several BRF cake runs I did helped me out a lot. After enough of them you start to be able to read the signs more than just guessing by number of days, etc. Good learning either way.
Then, if you want to try some bulk next time, you can try to start with the standard rye tek from RR or any of the many wbs teks to get your bulk spawn. I've found if you follow the Rye tek from RR's vids and Damion's coir tek to the letter, it hasn't been all too difficult for me. (just the normal first time jitters over when to do what...hence this thread;)) I'm sure the same would hold true for the many people on here that swear by the WBS. I just haven't tried yet and the rye's cheap and treating me right, so far. Since I'm still overflowing w/ Rye berrreis there's no real motivation to try that route...yet. But, I also have a lovely step by step vid, courtesy of RR for the Rye spawn and transfers. I just prefer that to reading 15 page teks w/ no pics even. But, I guess I'm guilty of that myself.
Anyway, if someone feels the need to proclaim WBS as the End all of bulk grains....convince me. I'll probably end up trying it sometime in the future. I tend to get bored with things very quickly.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Shamrocker]
#15891306 - 03/02/12 04:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is the genie really that hard to put back in the bottle? It just went from being a tray covered with foil and holes poked for GE to being a tray w/o foil in a dead still room for long enough to snap off a few shots. Do you guys really believe that amount of fresh air, ~30 sec's, would catapult them immediately into fruiting with no return? Not trying to be a smartass, but I really don't think it's that clear cut. 
If I knew I could induce fruiting so easily, I would have taken the cover off a week ago. 
I did put them in the FC today, though. So, it's just a non issue at this point anyway.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Prince Corwin]
#15891911 - 03/02/12 07:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The trays should have been colonizing in a larger tub with the lid on. This elevates CO levels which is beneficial to the myc. Once fully colonized and left to consolidate for a few days, the trays are THEN introduced to a lot of FAE. This helps promote an even pinset and helps prevents early pinning.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Shamrocker]
#15892102 - 03/02/12 07:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, thanks. Just following RR to the letter on the trays. Layer bulk sub in with rye spawn, cover tray with foil, poke a few holes for GE, wait until fully colonized. Then, he puts a casing layer on in the vids, but we've already gone over that here. But, I also saw this somewhere else today, so I did an impromptu, thin, verm only casing and levelled that out, then gave it a good misting and left in the SGFC. This bit was just an experiment for me with the extra spawn and coir left over from my mono. So, we'll see what happens. Got the mono-tub and the SGFC w/ the trays side by side. I'll update or move to a journal when I have lift-off. 
Thanks again for the helpful posts, all. ~C
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Prince Corwin]
#15892260 - 03/02/12 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not positive, but I think the substrate should be a couple of inches below the top of the tray/foil to allow for CO buildup. Of course once the foil is removed, even for a minute, it could trigger pinning, even on a substrate that isn't fully colonized. Yours looks good though. Keep us posted!
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Shamrocker]
#15895146 - 03/03/12 03:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, the monotub has started pinning pretty good. 5 or 6 big ones and a good number, more than I'm going to count, that are just starting. It has begun!
The trays are still working. But, they were a few days behind the tub and I added the tiny verm-layer/casing just yesterday. So, they'll be a few days I'm guessing.
I'll see if I can get some pics later from wherever they magically appear on my desktop.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Prince Corwin]
#15895220 - 03/03/12 03:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Shamrocker]
#15895236 - 03/03/12 03:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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By the looks of it its already fruiting
Considering its open air right there, might as well go for it now
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Shamrocker]
#15896009 - 03/03/12 07:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, If I had a monotub a-growin', I'd be happy with what we're seeing here. Pretty high res for zooming in. 
   "Big pins, little pins, pins that climb on rocks, fat pins, skinny pigs, even pins with chicken pox..." As for the trays, they're just showing verm, ATM. Reasons already stated in my last post.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Shamrocker]
#15938387 - 03/12/12 04:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, sorry no pics... but I, I mean my friend, did get approx. 70g cracker dry from the monotub.    The way it fruited was tiring. It wasn't level because it wasn't cased and didn't get the sub quite even. But, it was like 3 days straight, just harvest the mature ones, set to dry, look back and more needed to be harvested, etc., for 3 days. Not a bad way to spend a weekend. 
However, the trays that started this thread finally started to pin.
   ^LH Tray^ ^RH Tray^
I slowed them down a bit, unintentionally with the casing layer. I had some med-coarse verm that I wanted to use from a bag that was almost gone. So, I should've scooped out what I wanted and layed it in, but I just poured a pile in the center of each tray w/ just enough to barely cover everything. Problem is the coarse verm had that fine verm dust at the bottom of the bag and that came out with it. So, the coarse layer was great, but the fine dust/shake/residue from the bottom of the bag soaked in to the top of the substrate and set like fuxin cement. (I should've thought of it) Or maybe it just plain wasn't consolidated yet...but they seemed like they were ready to go. 
The tray on the left started pinning the same way the the tray on the right is now: from the side, then more across the surface. So, I'm assuming the tray on the right will too.
The EQ spores on rye that were used on the trays have always been a pain in the butt. This is on several BRF runs, LC, and this semi-bulk on rye. They were used because they were listed as a great beginner strain. However, the Cambodian strain that was used for some of the other BRF tries posted previously has performed perfectly, every time. Fast colonizing and good yields. Next up: Ban Hua Thanon then B+, maybe. Or, that's what I hear, anyway.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Prince Corwin]
#15938540 - 03/12/12 04:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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man you know how many germs money carry?
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Swwert]
#15938856 - 03/12/12 05:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Really? After all that you pick out that dollar bill from last week to criticize? *sigh*
Well, ok then, Yes. Money is one of the dirtiest things we come in contact with on a day to day basis, being handled by so many people and placed who-knows where. But this wasn't for making a spore print but fully colonized, consolidated, and fruiting rye/coir substrate. And it obviously didn't have any negative effects on growth.
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Re: First Coir Try - Ready to Fruit? [Re: Swwert]
#15940208 - 03/12/12 10:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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More pin porn
    
Should've just left them alone.
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