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Zaguila
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Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what?
#15884921 - 03/01/12 08:34 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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Habitat: I found this in our highland tropical rainforest of Southern Costa Rica
Gills: Small pores... on top and bottom
Stem: short and woody
Cap: Rubbery feel, orange rim, white body, orange underneath
Bruising: Seems to bruise an orangish color
Other information: Mild scent... rubbery feel/a bit squishy, yet firm
I attached photos of young ones growing on decaying trunk, as well as a few larger ones (top and bottom) that we harvested
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15884962 - 03/01/12 08:54 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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There are some versions of Oligoporus that bruise orange red, like Oligoporus fragilis. I have no idea what this is. What type of wood and can you provide a better shot of the porous underside? Are the pores round, angular, maze-like?
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: riverdweller]
#15885009 - 03/01/12 09:09 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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the pores are very small, round the wood is a decaying trunk of a hardwood posted a few more closeup pics the pores are most visible on the top of the mushroom. the first 2 pics are of the underside... the others show the top
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15885293 - 03/01/12 10:37 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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I'd call it Ganoderma lucidium, or one of the other varieties of Ganoderma.
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Zaguila
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Rhizohunter]
#15885306 - 03/01/12 10:41 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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hmmm it is very rubbery/squishy... like squishy rubber
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15885318 - 03/01/12 10:43 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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Zaguila said: hmmm it is very rubbery/squishy... like squishy rubber
sounds about right then
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Rhizohunter]
#15885335 - 03/01/12 10:48 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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Nibble a small piece and spit it out. Bitter?
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: vjp]
#15885346 - 03/01/12 10:53 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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vjp said: Nibble a small piece and spit it out. Bitter?
nope not bitter. I think it is still quite young. It is a bit sticky feeling though.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15885387 - 03/01/12 11:03 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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What does it taste like?
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: vjp]
#15885397 - 03/01/12 11:05 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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I'm gonna still call it a Ganoderma.
It seems to fit pretty well.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: vjp]
#15885406 - 03/01/12 11:08 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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it doesnt taste like much of anything
it seems to get more tacky/sticky when wet
the thing is, I have never seen a ganoderma with these color patterns... and the tacky/stickiness is odd
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Edited by Zaguila (03/01/12 11:09 AM)
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15885417 - 03/01/12 11:11 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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Fistulina species
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15885419 - 03/01/12 11:12 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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Looks like Laetiporus
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: vjp]
#15885422 - 03/01/12 11:13 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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vjp said: Fistulina species
Now I feel stupid
I may be going back to mushroom 101
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: wintersbefore]
#15885440 - 03/01/12 11:18 AM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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all the fistulina photos I have seen seem very red... not golden or orange and white.
I thought Laetiporus at first, but as they develop they dont bear resemblance.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15886055 - 03/01/12 02:05 PM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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So are there yellow/orange fistulinas???
Any other ideas?
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15886166 - 03/01/12 02:44 PM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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I agree with VJP's Fistulina species.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: vjp]
#15886176 - 03/01/12 02:47 PM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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vjp said: Fistulina species
This. Not sure what species. I use this key sometimes when dealing with polypores. http://www.erin.utoronto.ca/~w3bio/bio335/labs/lab_schedule_assets/2011_Polypore_Key_%20revised.pdf
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: NeoSporen]
#15886275 - 03/01/12 03:13 PM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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so I should be able to eat it at some point then
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15886720 - 03/01/12 05:06 PM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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It's not a fistulina, the tubes aren't free from each other. Don't know what it is, but I don't think, it's a ganoderma ether, the leading edge of the growth isn't white and ganodermas are white.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: falcon]
#15886769 - 03/01/12 05:17 PM (12 years, 29 days ago) |
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Zaguila
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: falcon]
#15898247 - 03/04/12 08:32 AM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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falcon said: It's not a fistulina, the tubes aren't free from each other. Don't know what it is, but I don't think, it's a ganoderma ether, the leading edge of the growth isn't white and ganodermas are white.
I agree... So, the question is "what is this"???
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15898286 - 03/04/12 08:51 AM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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Here is an interesting link on polypores of Costa Rica. Link1 Where's Mr. Newman, he'd have an idea on this.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: riverdweller]
#15908960 - 03/06/12 12:48 PM (12 years, 24 days ago) |
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Here are a couple more photos. The mushrooms have matured some... Still very spongy feeling.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15909091 - 03/06/12 01:29 PM (12 years, 24 days ago) |
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Zaguila said:
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Looks like Laetiporus
Agree, see this for an interesting possiblity, Laetiporus gilbertsonii var. pallidus Burds.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: RiverDweller1]
#15909367 - 03/06/12 02:47 PM (12 years, 24 days ago) |
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Dont a majority if not all Fistulinas cause a sort of rot on the tree? Shouldnt this be a good indicator?
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: RiverDweller1]
#15910288 - 03/06/12 06:03 PM (12 years, 24 days ago) |
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Yeah the flesh has the tender look that Laetiporus does when it's really young, would be good to see some that are more mature mature and see if they tear apart like the older laetiporus do.
Snoot, pretty sure all the polypores will cause a rot on trees, so knowing it grows on trees doesn't separate it from any other polypores.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: falcon]
#15910715 - 03/06/12 07:13 PM (12 years, 24 days ago) |
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falcon said: Yeah the flesh has the tender look that Laetiporus does when it's really young, would be good to see some that are more mature mature and see if they tear apart like the older laetiporus do.
Snoot, pretty sure all the polypores will cause a rot on trees, so knowing it grows on trees doesn't separate it from any other polypores.
all polypores rot ?
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: snoot]
#15910833 - 03/06/12 07:33 PM (12 years, 24 days ago) |
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Not sure what you're asking? All polypores rot as they age on the tree? Or, All polypore will cause the tree to rot? If it's the former then knowing that a polypore rots on the tree would help narrow down the kinds of polypores that it could be.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: falcon]
#15912723 - 03/07/12 06:07 AM (12 years, 24 days ago) |
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Maybe snoot meant brown rot instead of white rot of the wood? Laetiporus and Fistulina species should cause brown rot, while the majority of other polypores cause white rot. However you would have to find some well digested piece of wood to tell, while on the same trunk there are usually other species present as well.
I'm leaning towards a Laetiporus species. Could the tree be Eucalyptus?
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Mycelio]
#15913798 - 03/07/12 12:32 PM (12 years, 23 days ago) |
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Mycelio said: Maybe snoot meant brown rot instead of white rot of the wood? Laetiporus and Fistulina species should cause brown rot, while the majority of other polypores cause white rot. However you would have to find some well digested piece of wood to tell, while on the same trunk there are usually other species present as well.
I'm leaning towards a Laetiporus species. Could the tree be Eucalyptus?
Carsten
Yeah brown rot indeed. Should have been more specific.
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Re: Please help - Is this a type of Ganoderma??? If not, then what? [Re: Zaguila]
#15914949 - 03/07/12 05:01 PM (12 years, 23 days ago) |
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Zaguila said: Here are a couple more photos. The mushrooms have matured some... Still very spongy feeling.
If you take one them and tear it from growing edge back towards the stem and it tears into what looks like grain in meat, it will be a good indication that these are Laetiporus.
Ah, brown rot.
Don't know what kind of tree that is.
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