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First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!!
    #15884504 - 03/01/12 04:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So this is my first time ever attempting to grow mushrooms. I did a lot of research and these are the first signs of life!!! This is only 1 day after the dunk!!! More pics to come!!!

Left cake primordia/pins!!!


Right cake primordia/pins!!!

My automatic FC


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This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

There's a part of every living thing that wants to become itself: the tadpole into the frog, the chrysalis into the butterfly, a damaged human being into a whole one. That is spirituality.

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15884664 - 03/01/12 06:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

not bad, you really should get a clean lid or some foil between those hydrotons and your cake, there uses for RH not for watering your cakes, could cause problems

where's the holes for FAE? that poor little guy must be suffocating.
look in to a SGFC, as far as fruiting from cakes a SGFC is the best alternative to a fully automated green house or martha setup.

if you own a drill and have about 20 min you have everything else basically, the cakes could be temporarily placed in a clean Tupperware while you make adjustments and clean up ect.

also there will be no need for that pump so it will be quiter and profoundly more efficient.


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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: bishlap]
    #15884747 - 03/01/12 07:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What is that in the bottom of your fruiting chamber?  It doesn't look like perlite.  ???  Also, your cakes should be sitting on a little square of tin foil or something so they're not directing wicking moisture of the whatever-that-is.

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: bishlap]
    #15884755 - 03/01/12 07:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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bishlap said:
not bad, you really should get a clean lid or some foil between those hydrotons and your cake, there uses for RH not for watering your cakes, could cause problems

where's the holes for FAE?





The fresh air comes from the pump.
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also there will be no need for that pump so it will be quiter and profoundly more efficient.




There is a need for that pump as he is using a pmp.


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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: SackofWoe]
    #15884763 - 03/01/12 07:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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SackofWoe said:
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bishlap said:
not bad, you really should get a clean lid or some foil between those hydrotons and your cake, there uses for RH not for watering your cakes, could cause problems

where's the holes for FAE?





The fresh air comes from the pump.
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bishlap said:
also there will be no need for that pump so it will be quiter and profoundly more efficient.




There is a need for that pump as he is using a pmp.





What he said :smile: and I will place a square of foil under the cakes right now. Thanks guys.


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There's a part of every living thing that wants to become itself: the tadpole into the frog, the chrysalis into the butterfly, a damaged human being into a whole one. That is spirituality.

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15884775 - 03/01/12 07:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:thisfuckinguy:

I'm aware was just suggesting an easy upgrade.


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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: bishlap]
    #15884800 - 03/01/12 07:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Pft, Beginners luck.haha
Good for you.
Hey did you wait until the cakes
Started to pin in there jars?
Is that why you had quick pinning?

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: Fredrickuno]
    #15884818 - 03/01/12 07:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Fredrickuno said:
Pft, Beginners luck.haha
Good for you.
Hey did you wait until the cakes
Started to pin in there jars?
Is that why you had quick pinning?





Haha thanks. No. actually I got really lucky with these cakes. They took a really long time to colonize. Actually took 3 weeks and then they stalled. I used jars I ordered online. They were only about 85% colonized.  I birthed them, scrapped off the uncolonized part, then I moved into the fruiting chamber.  After 2 weeks of nothing, I kind of got worried, so did some more research.  I took them out the FC, dunked them in cold water for 18 hours, and put them back into the FC.  And this is the results of only one day. :smile: sooooooo lucky i guess.


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This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

There's a part of every living thing that wants to become itself: the tadpole into the frog, the chrysalis into the butterfly, a damaged human being into a whole one. That is spirituality.

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15884836 - 03/01/12 08:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have a couple over 3 wks in my fc (those did not consolidate for long)
I'll try cold shocking probably dryed out by now anyways/

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: Fredrickuno]
    #15884842 - 03/01/12 08:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Fredrickuno said:
I have a couple over 3 wks in my fc (those did not consolidate for long)
I'll try cold shocking probably dryed out by now anyways/




Yeah that is what seemed to fix mine. I dunked in a zip-lock bag and put them in the fridge for 18 hours. Best of luck to you. :smile:


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This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

There's a part of every living thing that wants to become itself: the tadpole into the frog, the chrysalis into the butterfly, a damaged human being into a whole one. That is spirituality.

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: Queen of Kings]
    #15884879 - 03/01/12 08:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Michelle M said:
What is that in the bottom of your fruiting chamber?  It doesn't look like perlite.  ???  Also, your cakes should be sitting on a little square of tin foil or something so they're not directing wicking moisture of the whatever-that-is.




someones never seen a hydrogrow, im talkin weed here folks not about this fungi grow,calm down,expanded clay pellets AKA(hydroton):ahahaha:


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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15884939 - 03/01/12 08:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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cubes4cancer said:
Quote:

Michelle M said:
What is that in the bottom of your fruiting chamber?  It doesn't look like perlite.  ???  Also, your cakes should be sitting on a little square of tin foil or something so they're not directing wicking moisture of the whatever-that-is.




someones never seen a hydrogrow, im talkin weed here folks not about this fungi grow,calm down,expanded clay pellets AKA(hydroton):ahahaha:




lol nice sense of humor. oh and by the way, in case anyone is wondering, i have two filters on top of the FC for air exchange :smile:


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This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

There's a part of every living thing that wants to become itself: the tadpole into the frog, the chrysalis into the butterfly, a damaged human being into a whole one. That is spirituality.

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15885031 - 03/01/12 09:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

very nice. why did you decide to use the clay pellets?


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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: cosmic carnage]
    #15885111 - 03/01/12 09:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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very nice. why did you decide to use the clay pellets?




i chose to go with the hydrotron because i could not find any perlite anywhere in my area.


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All of my photos are fabricated or retrieved from the internet and are not mine :smile:

This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

There's a part of every living thing that wants to become itself: the tadpole into the frog, the chrysalis into the butterfly, a damaged human being into a whole one. That is spirituality.

Edited by nemesis19902008 (03/01/12 09:52 AM)

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15885144 - 03/01/12 09:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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nemesis19902008 said:
Quote:

cosmic carnage said:
very nice. why did you decide to use the clay pellets?




i chose to go with the hydrotron because i could not find any perlite anywhere in my area.




i wish i could find clay pellets as easily as i do perlite
do you not have a wally world in your area?

did you get that online or a hydrostore?


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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15885152 - 03/01/12 10:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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cubes4cancer said:
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nemesis19902008 said:
Quote:

cosmic carnage said:
very nice. why did you decide to use the clay pellets?




i chose to go with the hydrotron because i could not find any perlite anywhere in my area.




i wish i could find clay pellets as easily as i do perlite
do you not have a wally world in your area?

did you get that online or a hydrostore?




you should check out amazon. perfect place to buy hydrotron. i found it at a local gardening supplier. unfortunately, there is no walmart where i live :frown:


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This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

There's a part of every living thing that wants to become itself: the tadpole into the frog, the chrysalis into the butterfly, a damaged human being into a whole one. That is spirituality.

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: cosmic carnage]
    #15885176 - 03/01/12 10:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Nice PMP! I'm a huge fan of Magash's design and have been using a larger version myself for quite some time. It's hard to beat the ability (necessity, in my case) it provides to walk away for longer periods of time without worrying. There's also the opportunity to dial in a lot of different factors for growing different species of mushroom, too (like specific RH %s, amount of FAE, wicking ability). I just couldn't get that dynamic with a SGFC.


Just a few things i noticed in the thread:

Cakes can be left right on the hydroton. There's a sort of wicking-action that happens which helps to keep them hydrated. When working with larger PF-style blocks or bricks of colonized sub, it works very well. In a smaller container it may limit RH due to a reduction in hydroton surface area, but in a larger container it works very well. I've been able to worry less about replacement hydration because of it.

There are can be issues with vermiculite and bits of organic matter falling into the hydroton and potentially contaminating the PMP's water, but if care is taken and it's cleaned appropriately when necessary it doesn't cause too much fuss. The OP's PMP is small, so it's a breeze to clean. My larger PMP has about 10L of hydroton which can be a real bear on a cleaning day.

Lastly, folks don't need a cold-shock. Take a look around the forum a bit more regarding that idea. It's sort of old news. Although cooler temps are good to reduce bacterial growth during the dunk and some species benefit from colder temps, a shock isn't going to do much with what's going on in the OP's chamber. If anything, an actual physical shock to the cake (i.e. when you tap the jar) is a factor that can contribute to fruiting in some cases.

Additionally, although anecdotal, i've found that mycelium colonizing under more difficult conditions (i.e. with a heat shock after consolidation, frequently varied temps, or extended consolidation times) makes for more aggressive fruiting.



Anyway, looking good! Good luck to you OP!:thumbup:


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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: scags]
    #15885204 - 03/01/12 10:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

scags said:
Nice PMP! I'm a huge fan of Magash's design and have been using a larger version myself for quite some time. It's hard to beat the ability (necessity, in my case) it provides to walk away for longer periods of time without worrying. There's also the opportunity to dial in a lot of different factors for growing different species of mushroom, too (like specific RH %s, amount of FAE, wicking ability). I just couldn't get that dynamic with a SGFC.


Just a few things i noticed in the thread:

Cakes can be left right on the hydroton. There's a sort of wicking-action that happens which helps to keep them hydrated. When working with larger PF-style blocks or bricks of colonized sub, it works very well. In a smaller container it may limit RH due to a reduction in hydroton surface area, but in a larger container it works very well. I've been able to worry less about replacement hydration because of it.

There are can be issues with vermiculite and bits of organic matter falling into the hydroton and potentially contaminating the PMP's water, but if care is taken and it's cleaned appropriately when necessary it doesn't cause too much fuss. The OP's PMP is small, so it's a breeze to clean. My larger PMP has about 10L of hydroton which can be a real bear on a cleaning day.

Lastly, folks don't need a cold-shock. Take a look around the forum a bit more regarding that idea. It's sort of old news. Although cooler temps are good to reduce bacterial growth during the dunk and some species benefit from colder temps, a shock isn't going to do much with what's going on in the OP's chamber. If anything, an actual physical shock to the cake (i.e. when you tap the jar) is a factor that can contribute to fruiting in some cases.

Additionally, although anecdotal, i've found that mycelium colonizing under more difficult conditions (i.e. with a heat shock after consolidation, frequently varied temps, or extended consolidation times) makes for more aggressive fruiting.



Anyway, looking good! Good luck to you OP!:thumbup:




Great post. I appreciate your information. Happy shrooming!!!


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All of my photos are fabricated or retrieved from the internet and are not mine :smile:

This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

There's a part of every living thing that wants to become itself: the tadpole into the frog, the chrysalis into the butterfly, a damaged human being into a whole one. That is spirituality.

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15886247 - 03/01/12 03:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have a question about this grow. Since the primordia are forming at the bottom of the cake and none on the top, should I turn the cakes over?

New pic


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All of my photos are fabricated or retrieved from the internet and are not mine :smile:

This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

There's a part of every living thing that wants to become itself: the tadpole into the frog, the chrysalis into the butterfly, a damaged human being into a whole one. That is spirituality.

Edited by nemesis19902008 (03/01/12 03:23 PM)

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Re: First Signs of Life in my Automatic FC!!! FIRST GROW!!! [Re: nemesis19902008]
    #15886387 - 03/01/12 03:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you might risk abortion if you do,they apparently like where they are at so no dont flip


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ROGERRABBIT: P cubensis will grow on stuffed animals, bibles, quarter pounds of weed, bras, etc.
In other words,it's hard to fuck up a cube grow.
RR

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