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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1591788 - 05/29/03 11:39 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

apples and oranges.

Nope. Exactly the same.

then PLEASE show me where i said 1441 authorized the attack in this thread. (i know you won't answer me but it's worth a try)

This is what you said:

"Apparantly the UN thought the same that's why they signed 1441, or have we forgotten that?"

Could you explain what you mean by this? In what way did they "think the same"?

wrong, i said the UN thought there were weapons as well....

Nope, you said

"Apparantly the UN thought the same that's why they signed 1441, or have we forgotten that?"

The UN, under tremendous pressure from the US, decided to cave in and send weapons inspectors to find out if they had any weapons. Blix was rapidly coming to the conclusion they had none. In what way is this "thinking the same" as Bush?


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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1591796 - 05/29/03 11:41 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

It is, and once again apolo bores us all by over debating

Perish the thought I'd actually debate eh? It really won't do will it...

Should I stick to writing one line flames about your character?


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OfflineJohnnyRespect
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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Xlea321]
    #1591801 - 05/29/03 11:42 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

Wahh Wahh WAhh. Saddam is dead. Now we do know, for 100% sure, that he can't use WMD's, and that hey maybe he didn't even have any. In the process we got rid of a tyrant dictator who violated his neighbors soverignity (numerous tiems, numerous neighbors), we made sure that a landmass the size of california isn't going to have any Taliban Training camps, and that none of his money will go to teach young sand monkeys how to fly airplanes. Also, Saddams "gift" of 30K US to the families of any "martyrs" in the Palestinean "glorious rebellion" is no longer being sent. Hey gas is cheaper too. Gee, let me get my tissues.

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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: No outrage...... [Re: JohnnyRespect]
    #1591843 - 05/29/03 11:54 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

Saddam is dead.

No he isn't.

Taliban Training camps

Saddam and Bin Laden/Taliban were deadly enemies.

that none of his money will go to teach young sand monkeys how to fly airplanes.

You're confusing Bin Laden with Saddam.


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Invisiblesilversoul7
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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Xlea321]
    #1591850 - 05/29/03 11:57 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

You're confusing Bin Laden with Saddam.



Right-wingers tend to do that a lot.


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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Xlea321]
    #1591892 - 05/30/03 12:17 AM (21 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Taliban Training camps

Saddam and Bin Laden/Taliban were deadly enemies.

that none of his money will go to teach young sand monkeys how to fly airplanes.

You're confusing Bin Laden with Saddam.




What about Salmon Pak?
http://edwardjayepstein.com/2002question/salmanpak.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/8/13/95502


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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Xlea321]
    #1592156 - 05/30/03 04:53 AM (21 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Nope. Exactly the same.




maybe in Alex land but here in the real world it is different. If you can't see that then there's no hope.

Quote:

"Apparantly the UN thought the same that's why they signed 1441, or have we forgotten that?" Could you explain what you mean by this?




the UN thought that saddam had chemical weapons ie: the signing of 1441. Do you want me to repeat this again for you?

Quote:

wrong, i said the UN thought there were weapons as well....
Nope, you said
"Apparantly the UN thought the same that's why they signed 1441, or have we forgotten that?"




see above


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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1592651 - 05/30/03 10:15 AM (21 years, 27 days ago)

maybe in Alex land but here in the real world it is different. If you can't see that then there's no hope.

I have no idea what world you are living in but it certainly isn't the real one. In the real world you don't make allegations about things you have no evidence exist. If you do you are usually secured in a mental institution.

the UN thought that saddam had chemical weapons

Not really. Under tremendous pressure they caved in to the US written resolution 1441. They agreed to simply send inspectors in to find out whether he had them or not. That means they didn't know whether Saddam had them or not.

As it turned out, he didn't.

Do you want me to repeat this again for you?

No thanks. To be honest I've no idea why you said it in the first place. It has nothing to do with the question. As I said I'd like you to explain precisely how the UN "thought like George Bush".

Incidentally what do you call a "weapon of mass destruction"? This is how one UK minister describes it. By this definition we have already overwhelming proof Saddam had none because he didn't use them. "Waiting 6 months" isn't going to alter this fact.

We need to rescue the meaning of words from becoming a further casualty of the Iraqi War. A weapon of mass destruction in normal speech is a device capable of being delivered over a long distance and exterminating a strategic target such as a capital city. Saddam had neither a long-range missile system nor a warhead capable of mass destruction.

Laboratory stocks of biological toxins or chemical shells for use on the battlefield do not add up to weapons of mass destruction. But we have not yet found even any of these.

http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=410664


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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Xlea321]
    #1592701 - 05/30/03 10:48 AM (21 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

In the real world you don't make allegations about things you have no evidence exist




Then why did the UN sign 1441?

Quote:

Not really. Under tremendous pressure they caved in to the US written resolution 1441.




i see, another blame america response. typical.

Quote:

They agreed to simply send inspectors in to find out whether he had them or not. That means they didn't know whether Saddam had them or not.




re-read 1441 it'll help you out.

Quote:

No thanks. To be honest I've no idea why you said it in the first place.




you don't say, why am i not surprised?

Quote:

It has nothing to do with the question. As I said I'd like you to explain precisely how the UN "thought like George Bush".




it did in the context i used it....you do know what "context" is, don't you?

Quote:

Incidentally what do you call a "weapon of mass destruction"? This is how one UK minister describes it. By this definition we have already overwhelming proof Saddam had none because he didn't use them. "Waiting 6 months" isn't going to alter this fact.




why are you changing the topic at hand? if you think i'm going to explain to you what WMD are you're fooling yourself, this is the reason most try to avoid your threads.



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OfflineAzmodeus
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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1592855 - 05/30/03 11:38 AM (21 years, 27 days ago)

At this point i would like to interject if i may....

and ask, what points you two are trying to prove to each other?  Let get that straight before we debate...hey that rhymes! :grin:


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OfflineJohnnyRespect
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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Xlea321]
    #1592936 - 05/30/03 12:01 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

everything I said, minus the fate of Saddam, is 100% correct. Saddam and bin Laden might have hated each other, but I doubt Saddam would have objected to a Taliban training camp in his nation, and now, we know for 100% stone sure that their isn't. As for his money, well, he did give 30K to the families of each "martyr" in the Palestinean conflict (I feel like a fucking tool saying Palestinean, thats like talking about the lost nation of Atlantis, Palestine never was, and never should be, a nation)

Also, we now know again, for 100% sure, that Saddam's money WONT go to fund terrorism. Was he doing it before? sure he was, he supported terrorism against Israel. will he do it anymore? doubtful, if he shows his dirty little face, we'll JDAM it again, and we'll keep doing it until hes dead.


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Re: No outrage...... *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1593261 - 05/30/03 01:13 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

It is well known that the UN thought there were WMD just as the US did (false documents etc.), that was the only point i wanted to make. No matter how many times i said that it slipped through alexs' grasp of reality.


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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1593309 - 05/30/03 01:26 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

It is well known that the UN thought there were WMD just as the US did (false documents etc.), that was the only point i wanted to make. No matter how many times i said that it slipped through alexs' grasp of reality.

Chief United Nations Weapons Inspector Hans Blix has expressed doubt over whether Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction - April 3 2003.

Blix said that he thought the US might initially have believed Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction -- although its "fabrication" of evidence raised doubts about even that -- but that Washington was now less convinced by its own claims.

Reality is a bitch ain't it inny.

so to summerize my point, I am giving the Bush admin. 6 months, (which can vary from person to person) to show that there were WMD

Could you tell us what you consider to be a WMD? Is a test tube full of useless bacteria a WMD?





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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Xlea321]
    #1593568 - 05/30/03 02:38 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Reality is a bitch ain't it inny.




Not when it comes from Hans Blix.  That guy was even more clueless than yourself.

Quote:

Could you tell us what you consider to be a WMD? 




read 1441.  I don't have time to spoon feed you :smirk:


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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1593619 - 05/30/03 02:47 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

just stuck to my "ignore Alex123" policy but i slipped up.

Its happening again...

Just let him have the last word cus he's like the energiser bunny. Too bad he doesn't do that with any relevant point.


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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1593844 - 05/30/03 03:40 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

i know, i know...

deal.


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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1593904 - 05/30/03 03:51 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)



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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1593966 - 05/30/03 04:04 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

wow, even more clueless than i thought. That thread had to hurt.


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Re: No outrage...... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1594030 - 05/30/03 04:23 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

isnt it scary that you are on the same side as johnyrespect? that should tell you something right there.


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Re: No outrage...... [Re: 1stimer]
    #1594466 - 05/30/03 06:48 PM (21 years, 27 days ago)

and you with Klinton....THATS scary.


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