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To heat or not to heat...
    #15883334 - 02/29/12 09:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Fruiting conditions for my cakes will be around 62 degrees fahrenheit. 

Is this going to allow the cakes to fruit, or shall I improvise some source of heat?  Any suggestions if this is necessary?


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: maxh]
    #15883476 - 02/29/12 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

they will fruit....they fruit optimally at 75ish, but they will definitely fruit.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: maxh]
    #15883546 - 02/29/12 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lower temps make denser, higher quality fruits.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: CMOS]
    #15883553 - 02/29/12 10:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

temps just really dont matter at all. Unless of course you are talking about sub 50ish temps. :tongue2:


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: CMOS]
    #15883569 - 02/29/12 10:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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CMOS said:
Lower temps make denser, higher quality fruits.




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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15883727 - 02/29/12 11:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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CMOS said:
Lower temps make denser, higher quality fruits.




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higher quality fruits? that's an opinion not a fact.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: skuzzy1232]
    #15883736 - 02/29/12 11:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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higher quality fruits? that's an opinion not a fact.




Exactly.  If there was something simple and specific that could be done (ie, lower temps) that would guarantee better quality fruits, it would be common knowledge.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: Stevaz]
    #15883748 - 02/29/12 11:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thats also like saying my fat shrooms should be separated from my skinny ones because there is a noticeable potency difference ......give me a break.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: Stevaz]
    #15883754 - 02/29/12 11:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

For optimal results heat the area. Put it in a small room and heat it with a space heater. Or just turn up your furnace.

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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: skuzzy1232]
    #15883762 - 02/29/12 11:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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higher quality fruits? that's an opinion not a fact.



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Exactly.  If there was something simple and specific that could be done (ie, lower temps) that would guarantee better quality fruits, it would be common knowledge.




I did not mean that they were in any way more potent.  I meant that they were meatier and more substantial.  That to me is higher quality.  If they were edibles for the table I would prefer them.

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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: CMOS]
    #15883788 - 02/29/12 11:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

All you need to worry about is FAE and Humidity. Keep it around mid 70's and you should have a huge fruit.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: CMOS]
    #15883978 - 03/01/12 12:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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CMOS said:
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higher quality fruits? that's an opinion not a fact.



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Exactly.  If there was something simple and specific that could be done (ie, lower temps) that would guarantee better quality fruits, it would be common knowledge.




I did not mean that they were in any way more potent.  I meant that they were meatier and more substantial.  That to me is higher quality.  If they were edibles for the table I would prefer them.

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Idunno about more substantial, for me its always been:
lower temps = shorter, thicker
Higher temp = taller, thinner

I think it kinda evens out.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: Dr.Tooty]
    #15884053 - 03/01/12 12:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Idunno about more substantial, for me its always been:
lower temps = shorter, thicker
Higher temp = taller, thinner

I think it kinda evens out.




lower temps = shorter, thicker, and denser

There are a few threads around of people doing side by side growing of isolates in different temp ranges.  The lower temp fruiting temps lead to higher quality fruits in every one that I've read. (As does my personal experience show, but I haven't done a side by side with isolates)

There are a few TCs confirming this. 

I have never really noticed a potency difference, but some people say it is there. In any case, I would rather have the better tasting dense shrooms anyway. 

Here is the first thread I came across with the search bar. Link (2years old)

It even has RR say this in it....
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Thanks for confirming what I've been saying for years.  Cubes grown in cooler temperatures are denser, higher quality, and much more potent than the same isolate grown in warm conditions.  It's a well-documented fact.
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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: CMOS]
    #15884494 - 03/01/12 04:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd have to raise a brow to the potency increase, but the rest of that thread sounds like it could be legit.  In my experience, potency is mainly determined by weight (and species, obv.).  So if your getting 1 dense fruit that weighs the same as 1.5 not-so dense ones, but the yield is only two thirds for the colder fruits - kinda seems like a wash to me.  But then it does go back to a matter of opinion on what, besides potency (for cubies), makes it 'higher quality'.  :shrug:


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: Stevaz]
    #15884533 - 03/01/12 05:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Fruit with out the heat.  Meatier fruits.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: truskool]
    #15884549 - 03/01/12 05:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

just chiming in, in my experience the slower the cubes grow (due to either lower temps or the strain or anything) the more time they have to accumulate the psilocybin. As pretty much everyone with any growing experience will tell you, patience be the key.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: niteowlthethird]
    #15884715 - 03/01/12 07:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: niteowlthethird]
    #15884892 - 03/01/12 08:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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just chiming in, in my experience the slower the cubes grow (due to either lower temps or the strain or anything) the more time they have to accumulate the psilocybin. As pretty much everyone with any growing experience will tell you, patience be the key.






iv got plenty experience  I still dont think there is any real difference in potency ...why there is no actual proof and second iv grown cold conditions and have not noticed any difference in trip .....I grow red spore GT PE and PE6 on the reg oh and b+ .. they do get fatter tho .. i like them to touch the roof of my tub lol :smile:



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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: CMOS]
    #15886028 - 03/01/12 01:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Idunno about more substantial, for me its always been:
lower temps = shorter, thicker
Higher temp = taller, thinner

I think it kinda evens out.




lower temps = shorter, thicker, and denser

There are a few threads around of people doing side by side growing of isolates in different temp ranges.  The lower temp fruiting temps lead to higher quality fruits in every one that I've read. (As does my personal experience show, but I haven't done a side by side with isolates)

There are a few TCs confirming this. 

I have never really noticed a potency difference, but some people say it is there. In any case, I would rather have the better tasting dense shrooms anyway. 

Here is the first thread I came across with the search bar. Link (2years old)

It even has RR say this in it....
Quote:

Thanks for confirming what I've been saying for years.  Cubes grown in cooler temperatures are denser, higher quality, and much more potent than the same isolate grown in warm conditions.  It's a well-documented fact.
RR







So glad to hear this. Thanks for all the replies.


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Re: To heat or not to heat... [Re: maxh]
    #15886047 - 03/01/12 02:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

and the well documented facts can be found where ????? exactly so i can do some reading ?



denser yeah we can all agree... but higher potecy well that would mean a cube isnt a cube ,,,,cause i can tell the potency difference huh ?


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