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anyone know html?
    #15880320 - 02/29/12 08:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well I have the majority of it done (all i can do with what I have). I'll post a link in here once I find a suitable host to get some feedback.


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Re: anyone know html? [Re: fuel on the fire]
    #15880339 - 02/29/12 08:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Table is the best way

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Re: anyone know html? [Re: fuel on the fire]
    #15880347 - 02/29/12 08:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: anyone know html? [Re: psychotropicwhale]
    #15880453 - 02/29/12 09:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Best bet is to just open a blog and use their free builders, and then C&P the HTML code and edit manually for adjustments.

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Re: anyone know html? [Re: psychotropicwhale]
    #15880467 - 02/29/12 09:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

psychotropicwhale said:
http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_navbar.asp




This is what I've started doing, just a horizontal nav bar with external style sheet.

Quote:

Jessica Swift said:
Best bet is to just open a blog and use their free builders, and then C&P the HTML code and edit manually for adjustments.




I don't know a thing about how blogging works. Do you have any links?


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Re: anyone know html? [Re: fuel on the fire]
    #15880476 - 02/29/12 09:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

put your header and footer in a PHP include to save yourself time down the road


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Re: anyone know html? [Re: Cherk]
    #15880515 - 02/29/12 09:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If possible use Wordpress as a basis for your site--either a wordpress.com site or install it on your own server space (like on godaddy.com or something). Wordpress makes menus, page creation, and all kinds of things ridiculously easy for you.

If you really want to hack through these menus yourself, look at the Superfish menu plug-in (which is a successor to the suckerfish menus). If you don't know HTML/CSS/JavaScript/jQuery, you can plan on getting very frustrated.
http://users.tpg.com.au/j_birch/plugins/superfish/#getting-started

EDIT: Here's a vid that shows you how easy it is to create a nice site with Wordpress. I'm a pro web dev, and could do it in, like, less than a day. It might take you a week or two, but it's really easy.



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Re: anyone know html? [Re: fuel on the fire]
    #15880597 - 02/29/12 10:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

WAIT!!! I didn't read your post carefully enough.
Quote:

fuel on the fire said:
I need to design a webpage for selling livestock.




If you're going to sell online, use this service:
http://www.bigcommerce.com/

It's one of the top-rated internet carts, and is quite inexpensive. It makes everything easy: adding products to your store, setting up merchant services, emarketing, etc..


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"Inspiration ~ Move me brightly ~ light the song with sense and color ~ hold away despair ~ more than this I will not ask ~ faced with mysteries dark and vast ~ statements just seem vain at last" --Jerry Garcia, Terrapin Station

"Officer, I'm going to remain silent, and I would like to speak with a lawyer. I'm not resisting, but I don't consent to any searches.

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Re: anyone know html? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #15880643 - 02/29/12 10:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ch1ck3n.s0up said:
WAIT!!! I didn't read your post carefully enough.
Quote:

fuel on the fire said:
I need to design a webpage for selling livestock.




If you're going to sell online, use this service:
http://www.bigcommerce.com/

It's one of the top-rated internet carts, and is quite inexpensive. It makes everything easy: adding products to your store, setting up merchant services, emarketing, etc..




It's more of a personal webpage, not gonna be a lot for sale.

I'll take a look at wordpress. Right now I have a css navbar horizontal header formatted almost the way I want but am having trouble integrating div id (incase I add another list on the page) into it.

When I insert id="nav" so that it looks like <ul id="nav"> </ul> in my html doc and add #nav in front of li and ul on my style sheet it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong here? And How do I make the nav bar 100% the page width and centered?


Here's what I have:

<ul>
<li><a href="home page.html">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="our farm.html">Our Farm</a></li>
<li><a href="about us.html">About Us</a></li>
<li><a href="horses.html">Horses</a></li>
<li><a href="horses for sale.html">Horses For Sale</a></li>
<li><a href="sheep.html">Sheep</a></li>
<li><a href="sheep for sale.html">Sheep For Sale</a></li>
</ul>

external style:

li
{
display:inline;
padding:0px;

}

a
{
text-align:center;
padding:15px;
text-transform:uppercase;
background-color:#98bf21;
font-weight:bold;
text-decoration:none;
}


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Re: anyone know html? [Re: fuel on the fire]
    #15880660 - 02/29/12 10:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Dude that code needs a lot of work man. This stuff bills out at $50 an hour or more:

1. You have no styles set for your ul
2. Why do you have a closing </ul> tag below your styles?
3. you created an id of "nav" but it isn't used in your stylesheet
4. Your menus aren't wrapped in a div.
5. These styles are properly based on a container div, like so
.my-div ul {}
.my-div ul li []
etc...

We haven't even talked about cross-browser; particularly Internet Explorer.

If you're interested in learning HTML/CSS, then by all means go for it. If you just want an online store, use Wordpress.



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"Inspiration ~ Move me brightly ~ light the song with sense and color ~ hold away despair ~ more than this I will not ask ~ faced with mysteries dark and vast ~ statements just seem vain at last" --Jerry Garcia, Terrapin Station

"Officer, I'm going to remain silent, and I would like to speak with a lawyer. I'm not resisting, but I don't consent to any searches.

Edited by ch1ck3n.s0up (02/29/12 10:39 AM)

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Invisiblefuel on the fire
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Re: anyone know html? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #15880667 - 02/29/12 10:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ch1ck3n.s0up said:
Dude that code needs a lot of work man. This stuff bills out at $50 an hour or more:

1. You have no styles set for your ul
2. Why do you have a closing </ul> tag below your styles?
3. you created an id of "nav" but it isn't used in your stylesheet
4. Your menus aren't wrapped in a div.

We haven't even talked about cross-browser.

Just use Wordpress.




I add
ul
{
width:100%;
text-align:center;
}

and it works but there is a scroll bar on the bottom so it doesnt look centered. I had a lot more but I'm trying to keep it as basic as I can till I get all the basics done and then add the fine details.

I'll check out wordpress now, but I sorta want to learn html. I don't mind wasting time on this.


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Re: anyone know html? [Re: fuel on the fire]
    #15880685 - 02/29/12 10:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It really depends on what you need. If you just want a personal website that displays information, then all you need is a simple XHTML/CSS website. If you want to be able to update it with daily or weekly posts, then, I would go with wordpress.

If you decide to go without wordpress, definitely use CSS. Tables are outdated and...annoying really. You can do so much more with CSS.

I can point you in the right direction for some guides and tutorials if you have any questions or need any help, PM me. I don't mind helping out.


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Re: anyone know html? [Re: PsilliCoder]
    #15880700 - 02/29/12 10:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It won't be updated often but I want to make it right and easily editable by keeping things organized.

I'll figure out what questions are important and post them later rather than just throwing a hundred questions at everyone lol.

Any tutorials would be appreciated. Im using mainly w3schools. I got the div working by using a wrapper and then div.wrapper a, li, ul, etc.

Thanks again


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Re: anyone know html? [Re: fuel on the fire]
    #15880764 - 02/29/12 11:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You have to make sure that it works in IE8, FireFox, Safari, and Chrome. All four of these browsers are available for PC. Usually, IE is the life of the party.



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"Inspiration ~ Move me brightly ~ light the song with sense and color ~ hold away despair ~ more than this I will not ask ~ faced with mysteries dark and vast ~ statements just seem vain at last" --Jerry Garcia, Terrapin Station

"Officer, I'm going to remain silent, and I would like to speak with a lawyer. I'm not resisting, but I don't consent to any searches.

Edited by ch1ck3n.s0up (02/29/12 11:05 AM)

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Re: anyone know html? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #15881096 - 02/29/12 12:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How would I fill change the background color within the dotted line?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/dorpers.png/
Here's what I have:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style.css" />

<div id="nav">
<ul id="UL">
<li><a href="home page.html">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="our farm.html">Our Farm</a></li>
<li><a href="about us.html">About Us</a></li>
<li><a href="horses.html">Horses</a></li>
<li><a href="horses for sale.html">Horses For Sale</a></li>
<li><a href="sheep.html">Sheep</a></li>
<li><a href="sheep for sale.html">Sheep For Sale</a></li>
</ul>
</div>


<div class="box">
<h1> Liberty Dorpers </h1>
</div>

<body>


</body>

</html>


#UL
{
width:100%;
text-align:center;
background-color:red;
padding:30px, 100px, 30px, 100px;
outline: black dotted;
background:red;
}


li
{
display:inline;
padding: 10px;
}
a
{
text-align:center;
padding:10px;
text-transform:uppercase;
background-color:#98bf21;
font-weight:bold;
text-decoration:none;
}

h1
{
text-align:center;
margin-top: 35px;
text-transform: uppercase;
}

.box { width:100%;
background-color: #CC9933;
}


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Re: anyone know html? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #15881409 - 02/29/12 02:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ch1ck3n.s0up said:
You have to make sure that it works in IE8, FireFox, Safari, and Chrome. All four of these browsers are available for PC. Usually, IE is the life of the party.





:lolsy:

This pic is gold.

FUCK. INTERNET. EXPLORER.

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Re: anyone know html? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #15881466 - 02/29/12 02:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Save yourself the hassle and go with a free, out of the box CMS. Don't mess with HTML if you just want to present some information in a structured way; it's comparable to taking up mechanical engineering because you need an individual transport solution - just go to craigslist and buy a car.

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Re: anyone know html? [Re: koraks]
    #15882396 - 02/29/12 06:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well I've got the whole site finished... atleast all I can do without some small stuff. Used html/css. The site in all will not exceed 1gb it's only 100mb now.

Can someone recommend a good paid host? How is host gator?

I am doing it from scratch because I would like to one day design web pages for people on the side once I have made a handful to show I know what i'm doing

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Re: anyone know html? [Re: fuel on the fire]
    #15882461 - 02/29/12 06:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would do it for you for shits n giggles (I'm super bored and could use the practice) but I don't have the software at the moment, sorry :frown:  I know how to, but I have a hard time explaining it which is why doing it myself just seems easier ha!


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Re: anyone know html? [Re: atayia]
    #15882948 - 02/29/12 08:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

our of curiosity what type of web pages are in the most demand for freelancing? Like stores, business websites, personal, home business or whatever. Can you start just using html/css?


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