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Re: Where does Amanita Muscaria grow? [Re: ATLien]
    #1395849 - 03/21/03 12:35 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

It's probably worth noting that if I saw a mushroom that looked like that at a distance (smooth red cap and white stem) I would say that the odds are that it's a red Russula. So if you're not familiar with those then you should probably read up on them. None of them are active, some are edible, and some are poisonous. They are very difficult to identify accurately to species.


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Re: Where does Amanita Muscaria grow? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1396717 - 03/21/03 09:46 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I have never seen A. muscaria var. muscaria (red cap) here. Up here we only get the var. formosa (yellow-orange).

I thought var muscaria were mostly in Europe.

You may be looking for the wrong colour cap. Be careful though, it can be confused with 'yellow patches' and 'blushing amanita' (both of these are inedible/poisonous)

Yeah, I found a A. muscaria last year that had a cap diameter of ~1 ft. They usually are big mushrooms as opposed to the yellow patches which is smaller.

Also, be careful when you are identifying species. You want fresh specimens. Often with age, their colours fade or they change in some way to make it difficult to i.d.


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Re: Where does Amanita Muscaria grow? [Re: no-tone]
    #1396949 - 03/21/03 11:45 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Here in Colorado the varieties muscaria and flavivolvata are by far the more common kinds. And they are very common here. In an average year you could pick them by the bushel. We do also have variety formosa, but it is relatively rare.

Amanita flavoconia is not recorded from Colorado, and Amanita rubescens is fairly rare. On the other hand, Amanita pantherina is very common and it is frequently mistaken for Amanita muscaria var. formosa. There are also a couple unnamed species which Dr. Tulloss is working on which could be mistaken for a formosa.

My comment was only to the effect that a smooth, red-capped mushroom with a white stem on the ground under trees is probably more likely to be a Russula than an Amanita with the warts washed off. Once you get anywhere near them the differences are obvious. Here, by the time they're old enough to wash the warts off Amanitas are generally faded in color and aren't so nicely red.

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In fungi, there isn't really such thing as a full set. Its more just like enuf to fruit. Its unlike humans in that it can have more than just 2 sets of genetic info (for example, 3 or 4).

You're correct. I did state that I was giving the simplified version. The difference I was referring to was the difference between the anamorph and teleomorph.

If you have mycelium formed by one spore it is called haploid (half needed for meiosis) uninucleate (one nucleus per cell).

Moulds are of the Phylum Zygomycota.


Moulds, according to Dr. Kendrick, are usually zygomycetes or hyphomycetes. He specifically includes the anamorphs of dikaryomycetes as moulds. While the anamorphs of basidiomycetes (such as Amanita) are usually monokaryotic, they can remain in an anamorphic state while dikaryotic. I'll admit that I generally think of the anamorphs as being monokaryotic, even though this is incorrect.

Moulds are capable of sexual reproduction, just as almost every fungi is (the one exception I know of is the leaf-cutter's cultivated species, and then who knows?).

That's one of the main characters of fungi, the ability to repruduce by fragmentation, budding or sexually.


The zygomycetes certainly reproduce in those ways. But the anamorphs of dikaryomycetes reproduce only asexually. They require a second nucleus to enter their dikaryophase and form a teleomorph. This was the main thing I was attempting to convey, albeit imprecisely.

To confuse things even more, the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature allows different binomials for the anamorph and teleomorph of the same organism.


I think the main problem is that I was using an over-simplified description of a fairly technical topic. But thank you for catching it.

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Re: Where does Amanita Muscaria grow? [Re: ATLien]
    #1400103 - 03/22/03 04:33 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I find Amanita Muscaria under introduced pine trees all around Australia.
Here is a find near Sydney Australia.


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Re: Where does Amanita Muscaria grow? [Re: MagicRooms]
    #1450534 - 04/12/03 02:34 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

How do u prepare them to eat, the same way as normal shrooms?


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Re: Where does Amanita Muscaria grow? [Re: dogwithcat]
    #1450624 - 04/12/03 03:24 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Dress them up AND GIVE THEM A KNIFE AND A FORK AND A PIECE OF WHITE MEAT, hUMAN MEAT THEY REALLY LOVE.

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Re: Where does Amanita Muscaria grow? [Re: ATLien]
    #15879512 - 02/29/12 11:08 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I think i jus found two caps...lots of longleaf pine here... had a question ...i know that psilocybin shrooms can't be smoked.. was wonderin when these amanita caps are dry...if smoking is useless?


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Re: Where does Amanita Muscaria grow? [Re: crazysquirrel]
    #15879932 - 02/29/12 03:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

The last reply to this thread was almost 9 years ago. Are you serious right now?


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