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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: kdmmontana]
    #15934432 - 03/11/12 06:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Know what's a bummer?

When your thread gets hijacked.

:sad:

It's okay though...I'm gonna toss out whatever's inside the jars that are dry are try again.  It's a learning process, right?

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #15934490 - 03/11/12 06:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I never hijacked your thread, they did (and its sad). I answered your questions.
It is a learning process yes but it doesnt take much to get it right.
I take it that you view this as a smaller hobby then let it take its time, some people rush into this because they want super yields but if you just want to grow some cakes and have fun, the straight PF TEK without any quirky additions will work just fine.

Good luck:)

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: mrmojoshroomin]
    #15942036 - 03/13/12 01:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The first time I shot up jars, I shot the spores into the center of the jar, and not towards the glass. I started getting really worried when I had almost no growth 2 weeks later. Thought the OP might have done the same.

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: rodent]
    #15942895 - 03/13/12 04:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No problem.  I'm trying again, and this time I chose a specifically slow colonizing strain - Mazatapec.  I can't wait to get those babies going either, but first, I need to practice and get better with my TC's.

Thanks for all your help everyone who helped!


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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #15942994 - 03/13/12 05:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hey op sorry about my part in jacking up your thread i just had to agree with how i feel about whats his name.
My first time using TC in standard brf cakes i noticed a a slow colonization time,slower than any other strain of jars i have done.
They did finally make it all the way though (took almost a month).
I still had some spores left over after the cakes i tried so 6 days ago i followed swwerts whole brown rice tek http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15788207 though i didnt pc the jars i steamed them with a dry verm layer on top. After 6 days they are way further along in whole rice then the brf cakes where at this point, like its a night and day difference literally. Maybe TC like whole food better I dont know,anyways just a thought good luck man.

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: King of Pain]
    #15952358 - 03/15/12 06:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks, and thanks for the information.  It's worth a shot.  I got another syringe ready.  Maybe it just needs a lot of breathing room.

I ended up flipping the jars so they're upside down.  I also moved them out of the box I had and into the dishwasher.  Seems to really be making a difference.  3 of the jars are almost fully colonized and the other ones seem to have picked up steam.


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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #15952385 - 03/15/12 06:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanks, and thanks for the information.  It's worth a shot.  I got another syringe ready.  Maybe it just needs a lot of breathing room.

I ended up flipping the jars so they're upside down.  I also moved them out of the box I had and into the dishwasher.  Seems to really be making a difference.  3 of the jars are almost fully colonized and the other ones seem to have picked up steam.




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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: aqh]
    #15954271 - 03/16/12 05:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thinking back...some light used to be able to get into the box.  Could exposure to light affect colonization time also?

I'll try to get some pics up this weekend.  Thank you all for helping me!  I really appreciate it!  One day, I hope I get to answer the questions and not just ask them.


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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #15954290 - 03/16/12 05:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thinking back...some light used to be able to get into the box.  Could exposure to light affect colonization time also?

I'll try to get some pics up this weekend.  Thank you all for helping me!  I really appreciate it!  One day, I hope I get to answer the questions and not just ask them.



Ambient light has been proven to be good for mycelium at all stages of growth. I let my jars sit out on a shelf and open the shades during the day. I usually never have jars that take over two and a half weeks to fully colonize no matter the "strain" (TC is just another variety of psilocybe cubensis).

Also you need to get them jars out of the box. Having your jars enclosed restricts GE (gas exchange). If they are not getting proper GE, that will greatly impede colonization times or even cause the mycelium to stall. Mycelium like humans need oxygen and as a byproduct of it's oxygen comsupmtion produces Co2; what would happen if you stuck a bag over your head and breathed in the Co2 you exhaled while getting very little fresh air? You most likely will die or pass out.

Your temp of 74F is pretty much perfect for cultivating cubes.

Your cakes were definitely too dry, if you used the correct amount of water in your substrate mix then you must have cooked them instead of sterilized them. Make sure the jars are not on the bottom of the pot/PC (two layers of jar lids work great for keeping them off the bottom, you can improvise with anything though if you don't have spare jar lids) and that there is plenty of water through-out the process.

Also make sure that you are shaking your syringe between inoculating every jar to ensure your spores are not clumping and you are getting a good amount of spores at each inoculation point.

Good luck  :fasted:

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: The Influence]
    #15954683 - 03/16/12 09:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This thread is lulz:lmafo:
I see like 10 reasons this should have been locked time ago.  Right from the OP:rofldrunk:

To the OP the jars that didnt grow in case you havent figured this out are shot toss them.  My first jars took 10-14 days to show growth.  I started 5 different "strains"  They all took upwards of 2 months to colonize and consolidate.  TC was one of them.  Now at the same point I have genetics that will colonize a quart in under 9 days from MS.  You see growth within 36 hours usually 24.  Ive grown probably 50 different types of cubes.  Besides very small little differences there isnt much they are all pretty much the same.  So toss those jars make up some new ones and shot them up with the TC syringe in your fridge or some new genetics it doesnt really matter.  Just get at it.

BTW :wtf: does anyones personal beliefs have anything to do with MC.  Take that trolling shit to OTD with all the retards.  Leave MC for cult.  I could be a racist skinhead burning jews or some islamic radical strapping myself with explosives it has absolutely no bearing here.

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #15955446 - 03/16/12 01:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Couldnt agree more. But because aqh insisted on copypasting anon posts from OTD under my name and sending out pm;s to the OP who later started a butthurtz post concerning herself. I told her it didnt matter and continued the conversation about her jars. To be frank, Ive stopped giving a shit about what people think of me. I am stilla damn good cultivator and thats what matters.

aqh quit wasting forum space and start making yourself useful.

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: kdmmontana]
    #15957280 - 03/16/12 08:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Allow me my moment of butthurt.  I wanna own my newbie-ness in all its newbie glory.

Anyways, here's the latest pics.  So far, so good on about 6 of the jars.  I took 3 of the "dead" cakes and tried an experiment.  I shot them up with Koh Samui Super Strain.  Sure enough...there's growth after about 4 days.  I am astounded.

Thank you all again!



Edit:
I got the best pics I could, but some of the jars seemed pretty sweaty inside.


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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #15958312 - 03/17/12 02:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"Allow me my moment of butthurt.  I wanna own my newbie-ness in all its newbie glory."
Thats fine, just stop bringing your own personal life into the argument,

Excuse me but why have you placed your jars inside your dishwasher?

Get some decent shots of those jars because that growth looks wierd..
Besides placing them upside down wont help a thing, so you can stop that.

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: kdmmontana]
    #15958362 - 03/17/12 03:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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"Allow me my moment of butthurt.  I wanna own my newbie-ness in all its newbie glory."
Thats fine, just stop bringing your own personal life into the argument,

Excuse me but why have you placed your jars inside your dishwasher?

Get some decent shots of those jars because that growth looks wierd..
Besides placing them upside down wont help a thing, so you can stop that.




Dude she started a thread about her grow, you helped fill it with bullshit and your still going on about it. You claim to be a good cultivator but you have spent most of your time butthurt ranting. Stop bringing your personal crap into her thread and give some decent advice or GTFO.

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: King of Pain]
    #15962525 - 03/18/12 07:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Justcyn - I'm trying the WBR tek today.  Gonna try the TC's on this tek and also try some Maz's.


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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #15966935 - 03/19/12 11:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

OP you just wont listen.

1. Flipping your jars doesnt help shit.

2. Give us pictures of your jars helps.

3. Dont listen to aqh or influence; theyre just plain out wrong and wont help a damn thing.

Go with the PF TEK the first thing you do and learn it.

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: kdmmontana]
    #15967589 - 03/19/12 02:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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OP you just wont listen.

1. Flipping your jars doesnt help shit.

2. Give us pictures of your jars helps.

3. Dont listen to aqh or influence; theyre just plain out wrong and wont help a damn thing.

Go with the PF TEK the first thing you do and learn it.



:lolsy: Point out one thing that I advised that is wrong, one thing.

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: kdmmontana]
    #15977612 - 03/21/12 05:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah you're a damn good cultivator with the pf-tek which has a literal translation of you're still a newb.
No one takes you seriously at this point.

OP, any updates on this?


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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: The Influence]
    #15979075 - 03/21/12 11:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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aqh said:
Yeah you're a damn good cultivator with the pf-tek which has a literal translation of you're still a newb.
No one takes you seriously at this point.

OP, any updates on this?




Aqh, your words mean nothing to me.


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kdmmontana said:
OP you just wont listen.

1. Flipping your jars doesnt help shit.

2. Give us pictures of your jars helps.

3. Dont listen to aqh or influence; theyre just plain out wrong and wont help a damn thing.

Go with the PF TEK the first thing you do and learn it.




:lolsy: Point out one thing that I advised that is wrong, one thing.




This entire stupid thread derailed at the point where the TS used the dishwasher for storage and youre being pests for stealing her thread for nonsense.

Aqh, I am a no noob and it doesnt take massive bulk grows to become good at this, this is some penis envy myth that keeps spreading: If I do a massive bulk grow then people will automatically think I am cool and know everything.

I am a VERY good PF TEK grower, which is why I dont dabble with bulk substrates.

That makes me experienced; in that section no matter what you think.

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Re: TC Colonization Time? [Re: kdmmontana]
    #15979097 - 03/21/12 11:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

aqh said:
Yeah you're a damn good cultivator with the pf-tek which has a literal translation of you're still a newb.
No one takes you seriously at this point.

OP, any updates on this?




Aqh, your words mean nothing to me.


Quote:

The Influence said:
Quote:

kdmmontana said:
OP you just wont listen.

1. Flipping your jars doesnt help shit.

2. Give us pictures of your jars helps.

3. Dont listen to aqh or influence; theyre just plain out wrong and wont help a damn thing.

Go with the PF TEK the first thing you do and learn it.




:lolsy: Point out one thing that I advised that is wrong, one thing.




This entire stupid thread derailed at the point where the TS used the dishwasher for storage and youre being pests for stealing her thread for nonsense.

Aqh, I am a no noob and it doesnt take massive bulk grows to become good at this, this is some penis envy myth that keeps spreading: If I do a massive bulk grow then people will automatically think I am cool and know everything.

I am a VERY good PF TEK grower, which is why I dont dabble with bulk substrates.

That makes me experienced; in that section no matter what you think.



Dude get real, I stole her thread for nonsense? My first post was helping her; only cause you kept going on with your bullshit did I ever say anything to you. But you tell people not to listen to me cause your butthurt? I never gave her any bad advice, and as I pointed out before I only ever got sidetracked cause of YOUR non-stop bullshit posts. All I said to you was giver some good advice or GTFO. You keep saying agh's words mean nothing to you yet you keep replying with more cry baby non-sense.

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