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Nahual
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San Pedro/Peruvian Torch/Hybrids? 2
#15836185 - 02/20/12 03:25 AM (12 years, 5 days ago) |
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Hi everyone,
I'm kind of new here and was wondering if anyone could help me identify the following cacti. I'm trying to find out if they're San Pedro, Peruvian Torch or Hybrids. I've got a couple of pics which I'd like to share with you. Please take note that there's one that looks quite different compared to the rest. Its colour is slightly more blueish, and its thorns look quite different as well, wheres the rest are all of the greenish variation (I figure). This one had been uprooted for quite some time, and was lying on the ground when I had found it. I don't know if that explains its different characteristics (I doubt it). Maybe they're two different types altogether (what I'm thinking).
Any help would be appreciated!
Thank you,
N.
P.S. If you guys need more pics, please let me know. Some are a bit out of focus and I apologise for that! If I went a bit crazy with the uploads, please excuse me. I just really need to know what cacti these are.
 Comparison 1: Left (Blueish); Right (Greenish)
 Comparison 2: Front (Greenish); Back (Blueish)
 Comparison 3: Left (Greenish); Right (Blueish)
 Thorns 1: Greenish
 Thorns 1: Blueish
 Thorns 2: Greenish
 Thorns 2: Blueish
 Up-close: Greenish (Cut & Dried)
 Up-close: Blueish (Cut & Wet)
 Front 1: Greenish (Older)
 Front 2: Greenish (Younger)
 Baby Cactus: Greenish
 Variation: All Greenish
Edited by Nahual (02/23/12 12:54 AM)
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naum



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Re: San Pedro/Peruvian Torch/Hybrids? [Re: Nahual]
#15836795 - 02/20/12 09:13 AM (12 years, 5 days ago) |
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Welcome to the EG. Not to many members here from your part of the world, but I'm glad to see one. Your pictures/labeling are a bit confusing [I think front 2 of greenish is actually the blueish one?], but here's what I can tell:
They are two distinct types:
1. ("Greenish") peruvianoid - Trichocereus peruvianus
2. ("Blueish") bridgesiioid - Trichocereus bridgesii or possibly a Trichocereus bridgesii / Trichocereus peruvianus hybrid. It shows mainly bridgesii traits in any case.
Do you have pictures of the two identical looking smaller cuts you didn't show us?
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blackdogs
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Re: San Pedro/Peruvian Torch/Hybrids? [Re: naum]
#15836981 - 02/20/12 10:27 AM (12 years, 5 days ago) |
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i see bridgesii, glaucus, and peruvianus.
the one on the right in the first pic is what looks like a glaucus to me. glaucus spines are a duller color and super sharp, long, and tough.
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Locky
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Re: San Pedro/Peruvian Torch/Hybrids? [Re: blackdogs]
#15841226 - 02/21/12 04:25 AM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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Heres some of my Trichocerus Bridgesii for comparison.



The blue one you have is a trichocereus Bridgesii. Its a pretty unique looking one, i would try and propagate it
The green one is probably a Trichocereus peruvianus. But in my opinion it looks like a bridgesii, possibly just taken from an old cactus due to the color, number of ribs, and spines. Can anyone confirm this?
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Re: San Pedro/Peruvian Torch/Hybrids? [Re: blackdogs]
#15844513 - 02/21/12 08:11 PM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
blackdogs said: the one on the right in the first pic is what looks like a glaucus to me. glaucus spines are a duller color and super sharp, long, and tough.
The one you think is glaucus has much shorter spines than the one that is obviously P. Torch. I thought the only difference between glaucus and P. Torch was color?
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Re: San Pedro/Peruvian Torch/Hybrids? [Re: Locky]
#15844571 - 02/21/12 08:21 PM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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@Locky: The first picture in your post makes me think that your bridgesii must be of hybrid parentage with pachanoi. Maybe not, but I've never ever see a bridgesii with a tip like that.
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Re: San Pedro/Peruvian Torch/Hybrids? [Re: Nahual]
#15860987 - 02/25/12 08:36 AM (12 years, 9 hours ago) |
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I would say these are somekind of hybrids from pachanoi, bridgesii and peruvianus or just different looking t. pachanoi.
I can say that I have seen many different looking t. pachanoi cactus. Some of them have no spines at all and another pachanoi makes about 1-1/2inch spines somewhere but not from every aerole..
And some t. pachanois I have seen they had few small spines from every aerole but not any bigger spines at all.
Its easier to say that way: If one seedpot have many seeds and seeds are cultivated 5 to 10 years, there are not any identical cactus to each other.. Only clones(cuttings) are 100% identical to each others.
Only I can say only for sure that your cactis at your pics are mescaline containing trichocereus cactis. Atleast every cactus in these pictures have someway same features with these trichocereus cactis what I have used for medicine purposes.
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