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Paypal = safe to do business..?
    #1585773 - 05/28/03 07:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

My friend has been trying to stay totally private.
No - one , i mean no one knows about anything..
Except 1 Place. PayPal. They know what thelittleguy is. And they have his home address that sends them in the mail too.
So Does paypal know about him?
Im sure with the government and FBI investigating spores now, Dont you think they hack into their database to get all order Addresses sent by paypal from TLG.

Am i Insane OR Paranoid..?
Isnt their a law that protects us.?



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Re: Paypal = safe to do business..? [Re: pussycontrol]
    #1586056 - 05/28/03 08:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

While Paypal does suck in many ways, there are laws that governing agencies must abide by to get ANY info from ANY business.

All TLG products are 100% completely legal to sell and purchase for microscopy research which is why I'm so strict in denying service to those who imply otherwise.

The FED's would be much more likely to go after a business who is openly selling spores for cultivation purposes. I could name a few but I won't.

Remember, PF was arrested after they watched his mail. He never accepted Paypal or cc's.

They are much more likely to change the laws before they start going after a customer's database to prove a case that they could not easily get a conviction.

My advice has and always will be to never buy your spores from a cultivation oriented vendor. It just makes their case that much easier.



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Re: Paypal = safe to do business..? [Re: boxtop703]
    #1586116 - 05/28/03 08:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

What im worried about is having my Home Address on file with Paypal And then having that list of addresses sent to coresponding counties for Investigation..

Then . They knock on my door and......


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Re: Paypal = safe to do business..? [Re: boxtop703]
    #1586476 - 05/28/03 10:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

"there are laws that governing agencies must abide by to get ANY info from ANY business."
Didn't the patriot act pretty much kill that?


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    #1586649 - 05/28/03 11:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

"there are laws that governing agencies must abide by to get ANY info from ANY business."
Didn't the patriot act pretty much kill that?




While the Patriot Act seriously dealt a blow to American civil liberties, it's main function is still to investigate "criminal activity".

Spores bought and sold for legitimate microscopy research is not a crime thus the Patriot Act could not be used to swipe entire databases.

Could they use it to gather info on one or two specific people that they are investigating?

Perhaps, but the criminal activity would have stemmed from the buyer and not the spore provider thus leaving the rest of the customers of the spore provider innocent and outside the reach of investigation. I've never heard of any of this ever happening.


As far as I know there have been no criminal repercussions from PF's bust and we know they were intercepting his mail.







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Re: Paypal = safe to do business..? [Re: boxtop703]
    #1607046 - 06/04/03 04:30 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

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As far as I know there have been no criminal repercussions from PF's bust and we know they were intercepting his mail.





Intercepting his mail? I never read anything about them intercepting his mail. Maybe they kept his mail they aquired at the time of the actual bust, that could be used as evidence. Even so the FEDS can not go around busting down doors based on people ordering legal spores. The gov. would be wide open for to many law suits. They would have already started raiding PF's customers they thought were growing mushrooms by now. They certainly would have had to act fast on that one as many people that were actually growing could have ditched their mushroom chambers.



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Re: Paypal = safe to do business..? [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1609530 - 06/05/03 12:11 AM (14 years, 26 days ago)

intercepting doesnt mean they were keeping it....they could have logged the number of letters/packages, names or what ever they felt to be relevent, as of yet no harm has come to any of his buyers and in all honesty it would be an extreme waste of manpower to track down all the buyers from any single vendor... normaly they would wait for that name to pop up in an NCIC check regarding a drug arrest before anything further is investigated


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