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Softmachinethird
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Fruiting chamber advice
#15844231 - 02/21/12 07:25 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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I recently upgraded my fruiting chamber, would anybody care to give me some pointers to improve my overall design and technique. The following images should give you an idea of what the chamber looks like. So far the chamber has keep a rather consistent 80% humidity and temperature






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I don't know how well those bubblers work, but I would be concerned about FAE.
EDIT : Also, is the first bulb a CFL or a normal incandescent?
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Re: Fruiting chamber advice [Re: CMOS]
#15844296 - 02/21/12 07:35 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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just go with a tried and true SGFC. the pump will not give sufficient FAE especially covered in a blanket like that.
this is my opinion of course..
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Re: Fruiting chamber advice [Re: CMOS]
#15844301 - 02/21/12 07:36 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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The air pumps are the reason your RH is stuck at 80%. How often do you run them?
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Re: Fruiting chamber advice [Re: billb]
#15844313 - 02/21/12 07:38 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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the reason his humidity is low is because air is not circulating through the perlite like in a properly built SGFC (holes onthe bottom and all other sides.)
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Re: Fruiting chamber advice [Re: PureHash]
#15844351 - 02/21/12 07:46 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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Maybe you can get the air pump exit below the perlight some how (sans jars of water). Like if it was raised up a bit on a screen. Would allow air to circulate through the perlite. 
I think a SGFC would be more effective (air convection circulates air for you, no electricity needed! / not pressuring you to do this) but you could probably get this to work. Is the tank glass or plastic? Some holes in the bottom would be nice for the heavier C02 to escape.
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Re: Fruiting chamber advice [Re: CMOS]
#15844379 - 02/21/12 07:50 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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I think you would have better luck with a PMP if you must use air pumps. Honestly, the best FC for cakes is a SGFC, it's low maintenance and is dependable.
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Re: Fruiting chamber advice [Re: CMOS]
#15844386 - 02/21/12 07:52 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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I'm just curious what the hell the blanket is for? Why on earth would you wrap up a fruiting chamber? 
80% humidity isn't enough either. Besides, as already said, fish pumps are lame for fresh air exchange. How well would you breathe locked in a sealed tub with nothing but an aquarium pump?
Build a shotgun terrarium, and watch your fresh air supply skyrocket, while humidity goes to 95%. RR
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Re: Fruiting chamber advice [Re: billb]
#15844394 - 02/21/12 07:53 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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it's low maintenance and is dependable.
and the cheapest!
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I'm just curious what the hell the blanket is for?
Maybe insulation to keep the temps up. Maybe its a cold house/garage.
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This should be stated with more emphasis!!!!
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Build a shotgun terrarium, and watch your fresh air supply skyrocket, while humidity goes to 95%. RR
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Re: Fruiting chamber advice [Re: billb]
#15846502 - 02/22/12 08:32 AM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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is this some kind of stealth grow? are you trying to make sure no one finds it?
if not, then definitely go SGFC, simple and very effective!
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Re: Fruiting chamber advice [Re: billb]
#15848693 - 02/22/12 05:42 PM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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I constalty run the air pumps, though sometimes I turn one off- though I don't see any improvement in RH. I would run a shotgun but my room is far too cold. I usually fan and spraw 3 times a day. Is this enough?
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The air pump isnt causing low humidity. The overall design is. a SGFC works on the principal that evaporating water will draw air in through the perlite, thus causing more water to evaporate. This constantly draws in FAE and keep humidity up. When you mist you are re hydrating the perlite to evaporate more water and keep the cycle in motion. In your setup there is no air circulating through your perlite, and if there is, its not enough with thoe 2 little pumps. Just drill holes one every side (The bottom is a side) spaced about every 2" Then you need to use 4-5' of perlite for the design to work properly.
There is more to a SGFC then just drilling a buncha holes and pouring in some perlite. If you don't have the right amount of holes, or the right amount of perlite your FC will not have optimal conditions.
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