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Voinik284
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Adverse Effects Data for Hawaiian Baby Woodrose/Morning Glory
#15837696 - 02/20/12 01:38 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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If SWIY has ever had adverse effects(seizures/convulsions/blood in vomit, extremely rapid heart rate, your body turning purple or blue, black outs, numbness, muscle soreness, etc...) from Morning Glory or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds, please post here the following:
*amount of seeds taken and the strain
*how you prepared them
*What you ate within the last 3 days
*list of symptoms
*time length of symptoms
*any medications or drugs(including over the counter and herbs) SWIY were taking or took within 3 weeks
*any history of disease(heart problems, epilepsy, mental health issues, etc...)
Please keep SWIY´s post short and to the point. I´m very interested in gathering as much data as possible, analyzing it, and possibly in the future doing some chemical research and analysis on the seeds and the effects the various chemicals have on the body. This will allow more people to know what their consuming and how to do so most safely, deal with the strychnine/cyanide rumor, and many other things. Thanks for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you...
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Re: Adverse Effects Data for Hawaiian Baby Woodrose/Morning Glory [Re: Voinik284]
#15838337 - 02/20/12 03:52 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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this was like over four years ago
4th of July i ate ~300 mg seeds, cold water extraction on the comeup i felt insanely nauseous/ stomach cramp.. after puking my guts out in front of my friends dad nausea continued for another few hours i experienced a mild trip, fireworks where visually entertaining. i felt like the GI problems lasted longer than the actual effect of the seeds.
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Voinik284
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Re: Adverse Effects Data for Hawaiian Baby Woodrose/Morning Glory [Re: Dest]
#15838709 - 02/20/12 05:20 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you for your post. I understand if it was a long time ago you would not remember what you ate, etc... But for all those who post from this point on, I think it would be a good idea if you copied and pasted the original list of questions, and answered them that way. It is important to note if you have any medical conditions, and if you were taking any medications, drugs, or supplements; including but not limited to herbs, cigarettes, marijuana, and over the counter. From your post Dust, I´m assuming it was morning glory and not HBWR. If this is the case and you don´t have any more information to add, you don´t need to respond, as I´d like to keep it as clean and managable as possible. Thanks again guys!
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Re: Adverse Effects Data for Hawaiian Baby Woodrose/Morning Glory [Re: Voinik284]
#15838776 - 02/20/12 05:31 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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i passed out off 12 seeds of hwbr woke up to bliss
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Re: Adverse Effects Data for Hawaiian Baby Woodrose/Morning Glory [Re: leafing]
#15838855 - 02/20/12 05:43 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've always had extreme numbness/coldness in my hands/fingers, feet/toes, and minor numbness in my legs. I've also had upper and lower leg pain when trying to walk about in the midst of having ingested them. It also seems like my eyes have tightened. These vasoconstrictive effects occur on both types of seed regardless of dose (to a varying degree, of course worsening as the dose gets higher). My heart race also shoots up a little, but not enough to be worrisome.
All of the above effects subside after 1-2 hours of ingestion (regardless of whether or not I've puked) on morning glory seeds. After the 1-2 hours of pain, I trip pleasantly for 6-10 hours. I've taken doses from 100-1000 seeds.
On HBWR seeds, the effects seem to be multiplied and do not subside until the trip is coming to an end (8-12 hours depending on dosage). I also get a splitting headache, more tightness in my jaw, muscle aches in my back, more pain in my legs, and a huge stomach ache. I've taken from 1-12 seeds.
I take no medication and it does not seem to matter how I prepare them. I've only ever eaten the seeds plain or performed a cold water extraction. I've always eaten an organic veggie/fruit diet with very little meat. I always abstain from eating at least 6-8 hours before each ingestion.
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Voinik284
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Re: Adverse Effects Data for Hawaiian Baby Woodrose/Morning Glory [Re: Cynosure]
#15839452 - 02/20/12 07:36 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Excellent post cynosure. Thanks alot! leafing could you please provide more information based on the list in the original post. Please follow the list on the original post. I will list an experience I had 2 days ago. *amount of seeds taken and the strain
-7 seeds that were still in the original seed pod(hawaiian strain, 2011 I believe).
*how you prepared them
-scraped off completely the white coating, chewed, then swallowed.
*What you ate within the last 3 days
-The day of the experiance I fasted, but drank 2-3 bottles of gatorade, with glucose and either dextrose or sucrose as the 2 sweeteners). bout 1.5-2 hours in ate fried plantains with various sauces(most contained milk, only one i remember is ranch)
*list of symptoms and time length:
-Within 0-2 hours(not sure exact time), noticed accelerated heart rate which seemed pretty fast. During this time I also noticed some muscle soreness in my legs, and some weird sensations in my feet. I also felt my thigh muscles convulse slightly a couple times in a small localized area. Me and my friends went out walking in town for like an hour, and I felt the soreness more so, as well as a general feeling of tiredness(this is in contrast to some of my other experiences where I would go on 7 mile bike rides and had a lot of energy, but those were with different seeds from a different vendor, however still hawaiian strain I believe), and slightly blurred vision. Eyes also felt strange, maybe tight, or perhaps pressure at various times throughout.
*any medications or drugs(including over the counter and herbs) SWIY were taking or took within 3 weeks
-I smoked marijuana by the 2nd hour, and cigarettes continuously throughout the experience. I was also smoking both substances for about 5 days everyday(for marijuana I smoked at night)
*any history of disease(heart problems, epilepsy, mental health issues, etc...)
-I am on no medications, but have been diagnosed with OCD, ADHD, and Bipolar Disorder. Within the last 3 weeks I have taken ayahuasca 3 times, but have not taken it within the last week.
Edited by Voinik284 (02/21/12 08:03 AM)
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Re: Adverse Effects Data for Hawaiian Baby Woodrose/Morning Glory [Re: Voinik284]
#15841558 - 02/21/12 07:51 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I guess I can add that cold water extractions of both cut down on the overall length of the stomach pain. If extracted, the pain doesn't last as long. If I chew and swallow them, the stomach pain will remain a bit longer.
My eyes also seem very tired at the end of LSA trips (which doesn't happen to me on other psychedelics). Tired as in I've been using them to stare at a computer screen and work for 24 hours and I just want to close them now and sleep.
Peeling/scraping the hairy husks of HBWR seeds has had no benefits. I started off doing this as people on the internet had suggested it. However, I've found that it truly makes no difference and I'm going to be sick for most of the trip anyways.
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Re: Adverse Effects Data for Hawaiian Baby Woodrose/Morning Glory [Re: Cynosure]
#15842142 - 02/21/12 11:03 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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i really just ground up the seeds minimally and mixed them with these candy that contained seeds to mask the flavor and down the hatch... i was on a lot of medication at the time... including seroquel 600mgs, klonazepam, taken as needed, some mood stabilizer, and yea.
i just smoked some marijuana.. passed out. woke up groggy but feeling slightly mdma like with nausea.. so i stayed under my cover and didnt move. then i saw amazing visuals. but i would close my eyes get cevs.. myu dad was right there but i always trip with him without him knowing despite my mental "condition". and sorta had a robowalk to my step
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