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mikesethnobotany
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HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood
#15834871 - 02/19/12 09:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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So... today is my birthday and I received the blower that I asked my mother to purchase from eBay for my flow hood. I got everything matched up, 600cfm @ 1.0000'' SP, perfect for my HEPA. HOWEVER, this blower is frikking 230V instead of 110V, which is obv. a problem. Is there any reasonably cheap way/ safe way that I can convert the 230V to 110V? Ive seen a few converters online but I'm not sure if they will work for this since it is a 3 phase ....
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: mikesethnobotany]
#15834901 - 02/19/12 09:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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It would be far better to simply wire up a two pole outlet and run on 230 volts. However, most motors sold in the U.S. are designed to run on either voltage by switching a couple of wires. Don't tell me you bought a made in china blower on screwbay? RR
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: mikesethnobotany]
#15834907 - 02/19/12 10:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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where i work there are only 3phase converters. all im saying such converters does exist and it shudnt be such a problem to find them. if i were you i would try to search for them Locally.
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: RogerRabbit]
#15834912 - 02/19/12 10:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ouch! I am sorry to read that Mike.
You will figure out the conversion problem.
Good luck,
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mikesethnobotany
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: RogerRabbit]
#15834930 - 02/19/12 10:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
It would be far better to simply wire up a two pole outlet and run on 230 volts. However, most motors sold in the U.S. are designed to run on either voltage by switching a couple of wires. Don't tell me you bought a made in china blower on screwbay? RR
UGH It is from eBay but it is a (at least I think) quality blower made by Dayton. It is a PSC 1TDT3 blower. Now, is a two pole outlet something a dumb perm-meder can conjure up on his own? Cuz I will be willing to try just about anything that will not compromise my safety beyond reason, at this point.
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: jenia1]
#15834931 - 02/19/12 10:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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jenia1 said: where i work there are only 3phase converters. all im saying such converters does exist and it shudnt be such a problem to find them. if i were you i would try to search for them Locally.
He didn't say it was a three phase motor, only that it was the wrong voltage. It's rare for fractional horsepower motors to be three phase. RR
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mikesethnobotany
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: RogerRabbit]
#15834957 - 02/19/12 10:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
He didn't say it was a three phase motor, only that it was the wrong voltage. It's rare for fractional horsepower motors to be three phase. RR
Unfortunately, it is a 3 phase
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: mikesethnobotany]
#15835008 - 02/19/12 10:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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mikesethnobotany
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: GroboClone]
#15835045 - 02/19/12 10:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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OH shit!! Grobo, right now, you're the shiznit my man. My stepfather read the manual cover which said 3 phase and assumed that was my model, but my model is PSC not 3-phase!! WOOT. Alright, so does this mean I am still in business?
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: mikesethnobotany]
#15835129 - 02/19/12 10:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have a dedicated circuit for the blower you can switch out the 15A single pole breaker for a 230V 2-pole breaker. You can then use the existing wiring to supply 230V to the blower.
Something else that caught my eye:
360 CFM @ 0.800-In. SP is the rating according to Grainger, so it wouldn't move 600 CFM at 1"
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mikesethnobotany
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: GroboClone]
#15835144 - 02/19/12 10:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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ya, I meant 559cfm @ 0.000'' sorry bout that.
Edited by mikesethnobotany (02/19/12 10:49 PM)
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: mikesethnobotany]
#15835224 - 02/19/12 10:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Under $10 , just make sure to get the right brand and that you've got space in your panel as it will take up 2 spaces.
Glad it was a typo on your part and not solving one problem only to discover another
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mikesethnobotany
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: GroboClone]
#15835243 - 02/19/12 10:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the link grobo!!
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: mikesethnobotany]
#15835312 - 02/19/12 11:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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No problem
I guess to be proper you should also replace the receptacle and plug so no one accidentally plugs anything else into it.
Edited by GroboClone (02/19/12 11:01 PM)
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mikesethnobotany
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: GroboClone]
#15835368 - 02/19/12 11:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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ick, well I live in an apartment complex so I cannot do any rewiring of the outlets. Also, my breaker for the kitchen area (where I will be using the flow hood) doesn't have 2 slots, only 1 slot
So now it looks like I'm screwed again ?
WAit, RR, what was that bit about switching a few wires to convert the motor to 110v?
Edited by mikesethnobotany (02/19/12 11:25 PM)
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mikesethnobotany
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: mikesethnobotany]
#15835582 - 02/19/12 11:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anybody have a different idea??
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: mikesethnobotany]
#15836517 - 02/20/12 07:09 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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EDIT: Some how the last posts did not show up and I did not read you are unable to do any new wiring...making my post offtopic.
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: mikesethnobotany]
#15836526 - 02/20/12 07:14 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
mikesethnobotany said: ick, well I live in an apartment complex so I cannot do any rewiring of the outlets. Also, my breaker for the kitchen area (where I will be using the flow hood) doesn't have 2 slots, only 1 slot
So now it looks like I'm screwed again ?
WAit, RR, what was that bit about switching a few wires to convert the motor to 110v?
Have a deep look at the manual and see if there is anything about converting the motor to run on 110V. I would also check online or e-mail Dayton for any additional information they can provide.
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: EvilMushroom666]
#15836631 - 02/20/12 07:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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mikesethnobotany said: ick, well I live in an apartment complex so I cannot do any rewiring of the outlets. Also, my breaker for the kitchen area (where I will be using the flow hood) doesn't have 2 slots, only 1 slot
So now it looks like I'm screwed again ?
WAit, RR, what was that bit about switching a few wires to convert the motor to 110v?
If you can, I would just put in a 15 or 20 AMP 240v breaker then just install 12-3 romex wire running to where you need it, install the outlet, and your done. Only do this if your are comfortable with electrical work, and always wear gloves even when the main breaker to the house is off. Most people would say I'm crazy but I can wire up a whole house safely, and the internet was my teacher. I think of the internet like the matrix, it literally give you the ability to "download" information into your brain about things you would normally never learn or be able to do.
Good luck, if you really don't want to deal with it look at the return policy.
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Re: HUGE mistake purchasing a blower for flowhood [Re: Aleon]
#15836656 - 02/20/12 08:10 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn, sorry about that...I guess you don't have a washer dryer hookup in your apt. which would have a 220 vac? If not, then about all you can do is piggy back two breakers like aleon was saying and run the wire. If your gonna do it that way, DEFINITELY run it in conduit. (plasic is fine) You don't want exposed 220vac laying around to trip over.
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