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Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom?
#1582798 - 05/27/03 08:57 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well Shroomerites I'm going through some hard times financially as a broke college student, and I'm sure plenty of you can relate. My parents pay my tuition, but that's about it. I can't get a job because my classes take up too much time. I'm desperate for some spare cash just for food and basic living supplies, and so deperate times call for desperate measures. I've decided to basically sell a lot of material things that I used to hold so dear. My CDs, video games, books, TV, etc. I'm going all out because I'm also planning to save up cash for an apartment. Basically all I'll have left is my clothes and computer.
Have any of you guys had to live in similar or "worse" conditions? I'm kinda looking forward to it since it'll be a big change for me, and I'm not sure if it'll bring enlightenment or boredom... what do you think?
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: ]
#1582839 - 05/27/03 09:15 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Similar here, except im not looking for a job which i probibly should though, and i have less material possesions. Ive never been big on money or material possesions, and i don't know why?
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: johnnyfive]
#1582893 - 05/27/03 09:28 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was in a similar position, so I started selling marijuana, there is a huge market for weed at colleges. I think it will definitly lead to boredom unless you plan to supplement your material loss with new hobbies.......like....running through forests or, doing pushups...or hitting on girls at the cafeteria. get a jiffy marker and start writing things in really noticible places, that will keep you occupied and provide adventure.
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Edited by atomikfunksoldier (05/27/03 09:29 PM)
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: ]
#1583088 - 05/27/03 10:17 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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In this case, you are giving up your material possessions for money. I don't think that's what I'd call enlightenment.
Enlightenment is a funny word, no? It's fun to say out loud.
EN-LIGHT-EN-MENT.

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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: RebelSteve33]
#1583100 - 05/27/03 10:21 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think enlightenment comes in many forms, and if giving up all your material possessions in exchange for nothing is how it comes for you, then I say rock on!
If you give them up for money, though, you are just exchanging one material thing for another. There is no enlightenment. Even if the money is to buy food and "basic necessities." There are other ways to achieve those things besides money. I guess I just don't think it's enlightenment in your case because you are not fully rejecting materialism. If you're basing enlightenment on rejecting materialism, that is.
-------------------- Namaste.
Edited by RebelSteve33 (05/27/03 10:22 PM)
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: RebelSteve33]
#1583114 - 05/27/03 10:24 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good point.
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: ]
#1583436 - 05/28/03 12:11 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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The more I have, the less I want....
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: Adamist]
#1583551 - 05/28/03 12:40 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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The less I want, the more I have.
A mind is a terrable thing to waste.
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: Murex]
#1584732 - 05/28/03 11:36 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'ma twentyfirst century digital boy i dont have a lot of friends but i have a lot of toys
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: ]
#1584787 - 05/28/03 11:52 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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When I was your age I lived in a paper lunch bag at the side of the road. The only clothes I had was an old bottle cap from a Schlitz Malt liquor bottle. Times were tough but I was happy.
*sigh*
I miss the good ol' days.
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: RebelSteve33]
#1584967 - 05/28/03 12:33 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Even if the money is to buy food and "basic necessities." There are other ways to achieve those things besides money
How unless its the soup kitchen or something like that?
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: johnnyfive]
#1585023 - 05/28/03 12:46 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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garden, firepit?
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: debianlinux]
#1585153 - 05/28/03 01:36 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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less material possessions = enlightenment ?
we live in a society where that formula doesn't exactly work.
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: infidelGOD]
#1585161 - 05/28/03 01:39 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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what are you talking about you infidel! all the homeless people Ive met have been enlightened. especially the ones that get mad and swear at you if you dont give them your bus ticket.
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Edited by atomikfunksoldier (05/28/03 01:40 PM)
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: atomikfunksoldier] 1
#1585178 - 05/28/03 01:44 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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they have not chosen to give up their material possessions in exchange for enlightenment, though. in their case it was out of their control. i have met homeless people who did seem rather enligthened, though.
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: RebelSteve33]
#1585182 - 05/28/03 01:46 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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fuck enlightenment, its all an illusion created by the cessasion of our attachment to our sensory produced ego.
all an illusion, quit foolin yourself.
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: Scarfmeister]
#1585184 - 05/28/03 01:46 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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"I'ma twentyfirst century digital boy i dont have a lot of friends but i have a lot of toys"
dude you got that wrong:
"I'm a twenty-first century digital boy - I don't know how to read but I gotta lotta toys! My daddy's a lazy middle-class intellectual; my mommy's on valium, so ineffectu-ah-ah-al. Ain't life a miss-terr-eeeee-yeah
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
#1585193 - 05/28/03 01:49 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together try to love one another right now 
and give all your possesions to homeless people 
and have charitable sex with fat ugly chicks 
and eat green vegetables all day 
yay! enlightenment! 
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: infidelGOD]
#1586634 - 05/28/03 09:45 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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..............Urk. 
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Re: Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom? [Re: ]
#1586991 - 05/28/03 11:23 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been, err.. am in hard times. The darkness gets very viscous indeed. It is in our abilities to rise above such things. Material things come and go, but you remain. 'Entertainment' need not come from outside yourself, but a few basic things don't hurt. I don't consider CD's, books, computers, and in some cases, TV, to be negative material possessions, because they can be used for spiritual purposes. If I had to get rid of every material possession, I would still keep my books and my music and of course clothes because materialistically, that is all I truly care about. Even aliens have books and music 
But you do what you can to survive. I sold my TV.
Having no posessions though, it does kind of force you to look within more often. You can choose to use this to your benefit, mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually. You can create your own entertainment...you'd be surprised what bored people can come up with. Whatever path you take I wish you much wisdom and insight along the journey. Namaste
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