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Invisible2Experimental
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few general questions
    #1581642 - 05/27/03 01:48 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

now i know all mushrooms that blue when crushed are not nessaraly active, but do all active mushrooms blue? or is there some that dont? do all cubensis strains blue when crushed? anyways, i found 4 or 5 decent size mushrooms when mowing my lawn today, and i think they are cubes, but they dont blue. Anyways, sporeprint in progress and will post to try for an ID later. THanks

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Re: few general questions [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1581653 - 05/27/03 01:51 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not an expert but - mushrooms that contain psilocybin should always bruise blue.

Edited by LSD25 (05/27/03 01:57 PM)

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Re: few general questions [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1581657 - 05/27/03 01:52 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Do not eat any mushroom until you are 100% sure as to what it is!!!

I just want to make sure you don't die! :smile:

Peace,

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Re: few general questions [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1581676 - 05/27/03 01:58 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

i wouldent eat them w/o an ID. can anyone confirm this statement?:

"mushrooms that contain psilocybin should always bruise blue"

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Re: few general questions [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1581677 - 05/27/03 01:58 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

cubes dont grow on lawns(well most of the time). its probly a stropharia spp.

now to answer your ? about bluing most active bruise blue. the color change is attributed to the oxidation of the psilocin in the mushroom. so all can blue but it is sometimes hard to see in some of the darker species one that comes to mind is pann subbs they are also weak so it makes it even harder to see. but all cubes should bruise man. post some pics tho and get it id for the hell of it.

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Re: few general questions [Re: blaze2]
    #1581682 - 05/27/03 02:00 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

no camera to post pics, but thanks for the info blaze, once print is done i will post i will post to try and ID to see if they are edibale

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Re: few general questions [Re: blaze2]
    #1581695 - 05/27/03 02:04 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Damn you're good blaze :smile: Exactly what I would have said. 

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Re: few general questions [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1581700 - 05/27/03 02:05 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

alright but if you want a good id without pics make sure you read the sticky thread at the top and give all the info it asks for. if it looked like a cube then im pretty sure it was a stropharia since cubes used to be in that genus. peace

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Re: few general questions [Re: blaze2]
    #1581704 - 05/27/03 02:06 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

thx gumby that means alot coming from you :smile:


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Re: few general questions [Re: blaze2]
    #1582009 - 05/27/03 04:08 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Not all psilocybine mushrooms stain blue. You can pick many with no bluin evident. liberty caps are a good example of maybe ione in every three or four hundred have bluing in them. Not all cubes willblue either. It depends on how much you handle or damage them after picking them.

One can pick many shrooms of psilocybian nature and not have bluing in many.

The Bluing in Panaeous subblateatus is not from low chemical content but rather fromthe reddish brown coloration of the tem which hides the bluing. In haystacks the bluing is usually at the base of the stem where it is attached to the my7celia and when it separates the cottony mass of mycellium at theat base will stain a heavenly light azure blue.

Some stain a green color. This is because the hygrophanous color change from browish to yellow-straw color and the bluing oxidation occuring from damage create green from the blue and yellow mixture occuring..

I can show many drying shrooms with no bluing in them and ones next to them bluing.

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