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eutebius



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"Overlay" or stalling of consolidated tub: How to fruit?
#15792991 - 02/11/12 02:33 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Folks, I'm hoping to get a little feedback on this one: This sub is coir/verm/coffee. After spawning, it colonized by day 9; in an attempt to see how yield and potency might be affected, I consolidated it for 20 days. Then, at day 29, when I birthed it to fruit, it was covered with condensation, which I simply let evaporate as I used loose polyfil and fanned 3 times a day. Now, at day 36, it seems to be suffering from what's typically called "overlay"--as the surface seems to be fairly lifeless, except for the edges of the sub; I've never dealt with that before. As you can see from the pics, there is some sparse knotting, but they're small and few, especially for what I would expect from this consolidated sub. So, now my options seem to be: 1) Keep it in the tub, keep humidity high, FAE high, and wait; 2) dunk/soak this joker, and put it into a good SGFC. [I suppose another option could be to do as #1, but to case first, but from my past reading on overlay, the casing would be pointless, because the overlaid myc are mostly lifeless.]
For option 2, it shrank enough during consolidation that it'll fit in the FC, and would be held aloft the perlite with a hardware mesh stand. Also, should I use a straightforward 24 hr soak, with water faucet running into/out of the tub, to prevent stagnant H2O and potential contams (as RR once recommended)?
What do ya'll think? Any advice for either option is welcome, and needed.
 By eutebius at 2012-02-11
 By eutebius at 2012-02-11
 By eutebius at 2012-02-11
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Edited by eutebius (02/11/12 03:55 PM)
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eutebius



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Re: "Overlay" or stalling of consolidated tub: How to fruit? [Re: eutebius]
#15803143 - 02/13/12 01:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm planning to soak this sub for ~2 hours, then put into a SGFC.
Still, I would like opinions from others on this, seeing as it seems to be worth documenting. I mean, I expect that others have had or will have similar problems after consolidating for longer periods, with a good bit of condensation on the substrate surface.
Thanks to TranscendingLife for the feedback.
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Re: "Overlay" or stalling of consolidated tub: How to fruit? [Re: eutebius]
#15803177 - 02/13/12 02:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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By definition, a bulk substrate can't get 'overlay'.
Unless my eyes are deceiving me, there's a shit ton of hyphal knots all over that surface. I'd wrinkle up a piece of wax paper, and then flatten it mostly back out and lay over the top of the tray. Lift it to fan and/or mist of course. RR
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Re: "Overlay" or stalling of consolidated tub: How to fruit? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#15803355 - 02/13/12 02:36 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks RR. Re "overlay", that's why I put it in quotes. I read through the worthwhile posts debating the term, and there simply seems to be no commonly used term for "a rubbery layer of mycelia covering the top of a substrate". And I sure as hell don't mean to spur a load of "overlay" posts when that condition truly is rare. I've never had it in any of my casings or colonized/consolidated tubs; only this last batch that had tons of condensation.
Yes, there do seem to be hyphal knots. They've been there since the day I birthed it into fruiting conditions; however, they've become flatter and flatter as the days have progressed. It's been 10 days since I birthed it.
A ~2 hour dunk, then into SGFC wouldn't affect the (possible) viability of the knots, though. Correct? [I did one PF grow years ago, then have done monotubs ever since, usually dunking after the first flush. I still have the SGFC, but this will be my first time using it with a bulk sub, and my first time dunking before first flush. So, all advice is welcome.] BTW: The going advocacy of 2-3" substrates is right on, IME. Though, considering I'm posting about my problems, I can't really be trusted, can I?
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