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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1585607 - 05/28/03 04:15 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

First of all, I have to say that there are misinterpretations of the two main discussed "types" of music in this thread.

Many people who are into hip hop, just like many people who are into rock, seem to develop a sense of competition between the two, or a notion that one is revolutionary and the other is useless.

Another thing, to call these music genres "hip hop" and "rock" is far too vague. It's not so black and white. There are artists who produce music which is far too diverse to be so simply classified as either rock or hip hop.

I am not a fan of this gangsta rap garbage, where these self-indulgent, ego and power-driven morons shove "bling bling" in your face and rap about how great they are and how much ass they're kicking and all the fun little things they can do with all their money and toys. I am not interested in this materialistic shit.

There are some hip hop artists however who carry very important messages, and they are often overlooked by fans of mainstream rock. But it works both ways... there are some fans of hip hop or rap, whether it be the good stuff or the bad stuff, who fail to recognize brilliant artists who lean closer to the "rock" or "alternative" genres.

The culture of good quality hip hop (like that of the artist you posted lyrics from), is no more revolutionary than the underground culture of good metal/rock/alternative music. And yes, there IS a culture of people who can separate the bad rock from the good.

To those of you who slander people like Kurt Cobain... it upsets me. Let me first say that suicide should never be an option, and it's unfortunate that Cobain didn't have the strength to cope with his problems. Of this aspect of Cobain, I myself am disappointed greatly, yet, I cannot ignore that as a poet, a musician and philosopher, he was absolutely brilliant in a way that is overlooked by so many people. Cobain had his share of things figured out... he was an evolved being, despite making some poor choices, but for these poor choices he is not to be condemned. He was only human, and the greatest geniuses can also be the greatest fuckups. Take a closer look at what he has to say, and read between the lines.

Believe me, I hate these modern-rock pansies who whine on with their fake emotional angst and bitterness. There are plenty of them out there today. They are not to be mistaken with artists who TRULY felt angst and frustration with society. Artists like Cobain expressed pure, real feelings of injustice and frustration with the ignorant masses and the confining rules of the system. Different people relate differently to these feelings, and in the kind of suburban wasteland that Cobain grew up in, many people such as myself are able to identify.

Not all white suburban families are filled with luxury and priviledge.

A quick note on hip hop, I'd like to hear about more artists who are into changing society and bettering the self, rather than giving in to a superficial lifestyle. If anyone has suggestions I'd love to hear them.


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Edited by Amnesiac (05/28/03 04:20 PM)


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Notnecstoned]
    #1586148 - 05/28/03 06:42 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, I'll check those out


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