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HipHop and social r/evolution
    #1579564 - 05/26/03 08:34 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

as we wander through our banal consumer existance, people always wonder

when will there be a new age of enlightenment, ushered in by revolutionary poets, artists and philosophers?

well my friends, look no further than your local record store, or the nearest alley and you will see that the new renaissance has all ready materialized.

it has a name: hiphop.

I throw on a track by Mr. Lif, and instead of hearing the emotionally-laden, pretentious lyrics of your average rock song, I hear philosophical musings and social commentary:

The master dreams of a society twisted
One cult with everyone enlisted
Clingin to religion just to feel uplifted
Brother I can feel your aggression
Life on a whole is in question
We ignore what we don't mention
To err is human, but the road we're assumin
Stops all things from breathing and the flowers from bloomin
Now I'm no historian, but I recall
That ALL
Civilizations fall
We give up our control but we suffer from withdrawal
We learn how to walk now we're too proud to crawl
[You thinking large?]
(We need to think small)
[Man first the universe]
(That's the ultimate brawl)

then I'm like......shit, this muthafucka is fresh!, my mind is so blown by this poets super-energized "conscious" lyrics, that I have to go outside to get some fresh air, then what do I see? a man spinning on his head, listening to the same song........oh....shit....

what has happened to reality, I run down the street, I try to ground myself...oh, I'll just look at all the dilapidated housing that IS my reality!

oh fuck!

some dude is listening to the same song, and has transformed the once ugly, barren concrete wasteland into a beautiful, complex, mind-blowing peice of art.....ahh shit!

what has happened to my dysotopian ghetto?, these crazy kids have turned it into an uber-creative utopian playland!

hiphop. hiphop is what happens when an individualistic, capitalist, super-competitive society contains individuals with nothing do to but live in the moment and try to be as free as can be.

hiphop adherants, like the graffiti artist, have flipped the capitalist attitude of competitive living on its head.

hiphop is our most powerful modern social revolution. Sure its been co-opted by corporations and tainted for the mainstream, but once something like hiphop (as demonstrated by graffiti) starts, it can never stop until it becomes the dominant paradigm.

hiphop is the ongoing battle for control of our mental environments. The more corporations try to flood our sight with advertisements for useless products, the more graffiti artists will flood the streets with bright colours that hold subversive and positive messages.

in the words of the RZA

Positive
Energy
Activates
Constant
Elevation



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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Revelation]
    #1579726 - 05/26/03 09:29 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

buy what, the Mr. Lif cd? go to your local independant record store.

anyways. I think if anyone reading this post has any revolutionary spirit and/or artistic ability, they should go out and buy a big black marker and start scribbling their thoughts all over the city.

DO IT!!!!!!


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580222 - 05/27/03 12:21 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

quote from infamous graffiti artist phase 2:

"I call myself a techno-symbolist. The term "graffiti is not what we called it. We called it art. It got tagged graffiti by magazines, newspapers, and politicians. It's not just about writing letters but about RIGHTING letters. I call it "Higherglyphics". Language in every essence is always subject to questioning."


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Murex]
    #1580243 - 05/27/03 12:27 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

your sarcasm is not appreciated.

you were being sarcastic right? for your sake....I hope you were.

because if you were not, you are about to experience what it feels like to be publicly de-constructed.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Murex]
    #1580258 - 05/27/03 12:33 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

yes, there is no creativity in what MTV shows, but that is not hiphop....that is corporate pop.

hiphop is alive and well. its kickin harder than ever before, you just gotta look further than your television.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1580300 - 05/27/03 12:44 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

murex:

what do you consider "gangsta rap" though? lots of people think "the wu-tang clan" is gangsta, but, for the most part (allthough a few members drop shitty albums" the wu-tang clan are just discussing social issues in a really intelligent manner.

but yeah, the insurgence of "rap" into the public consciousness taints peoples perceptions of HipHop. its like people confusing skinhead hardcore with punk rock.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580303 - 05/27/03 12:45 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

whatever the fuck happened to rock 'n roll anyway?

it got really rich and really fat and overdosed on drugs while taking a shit.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Murex]
    #1580456 - 05/27/03 01:38 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

"that's because there aren't many good lyricists out there right now..."

heresay.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: beam]
    #1581579 - 05/27/03 01:28 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

"Graff is the best artform out there,"

yes it is, because it is completely free and pure. Most graff artists are living in poverty, and arent doing it to get rich (of course, a few choice peices definitly help with your portfolio). Graff artists are just living in the moment, putting all of their existence into that one painting, and not expecting anything in return for it.....well....maybe some pussy.

but, I dont think graff is restricted to just
lettering. It used to be, but nowadays nothing matters anymore, there arent any rules, i see tons of wicked graff that have no lettering



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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1582191 - 05/27/03 05:16 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

???????

anyways, hiphop is the coolest shit nowadays, because it has no limits, musically, graphically, physically etc etc, pure expression.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Smack31]
    #1582325 - 05/27/03 06:09 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

word up! i say, forget political revolution, if people want change then it should be mental, and it should be positive, and what is more positive and mental than art?


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Grav]
    #1584803 - 05/28/03 11:55 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

max headroom- yeah, I fear that hiphop will lose its way sometimes, but then again...i dont think it can

hiphop isnt like rock, its not just music or an attitude, its a culture, a way of life. And this "way of life" has no guidlines....except for maybe, freedom, expression and individuality manifested through art, music and dance.

musically, hiphop is plastic. for an example, check out dj shadow's new album "the private press", which is hiphop.....i guess, but it doesnt sound like any other hiphop.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Amnesiac]
    #1586271 - 05/28/03 07:38 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

RZA, GZA, Talib Kweli, Anti-Pop consortium, company flow, Del the funkee homosapien, anticon.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: sunyata]
    #1587391 - 05/29/03 02:01 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

sunyata- word up, same with ATLiens


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Dogomush]
    #1591774 - 05/29/03 11:35 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

do you know that the german government has converted to linux? craaaazy.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1591808 - 05/29/03 11:44 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

dogomush- you forgot the spiritual revolution, the final revolution that will bring all humans together, in love, and spirituality.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1593314 - 05/30/03 01:27 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I dont think talib is anti-caucasian, just anti-racist-caucasian


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