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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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HipHop and social r/evolution
    #1579564 - 05/26/03 10:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

as we wander through our banal consumer existance, people always wonder

when will there be a new age of enlightenment, ushered in by revolutionary poets, artists and philosophers?

well my friends, look no further than your local record store, or the nearest alley and you will see that the new renaissance has all ready materialized.

it has a name: hiphop.

I throw on a track by Mr. Lif, and instead of hearing the emotionally-laden, pretentious lyrics of your average rock song, I hear philosophical musings and social commentary:

The master dreams of a society twisted
One cult with everyone enlisted
Clingin to religion just to feel uplifted
Brother I can feel your aggression
Life on a whole is in question
We ignore what we don't mention
To err is human, but the road we're assumin
Stops all things from breathing and the flowers from bloomin
Now I'm no historian, but I recall
That ALL
Civilizations fall
We give up our control but we suffer from withdrawal
We learn how to walk now we're too proud to crawl
[You thinking large?]
(We need to think small)
[Man first the universe]
(That's the ultimate brawl)

then I'm like......shit, this muthafucka is fresh!, my mind is so blown by this poets super-energized "conscious" lyrics, that I have to go outside to get some fresh air, then what do I see? a man spinning on his head, listening to the same song........oh....shit....

what has happened to reality, I run down the street, I try to ground myself...oh, I'll just look at all the dilapidated housing that IS my reality!

oh fuck!

some dude is listening to the same song, and has transformed the once ugly, barren concrete wasteland into a beautiful, complex, mind-blowing peice of art.....ahh shit!

what has happened to my dysotopian ghetto?, these crazy kids have turned it into an uber-creative utopian playland!

hiphop. hiphop is what happens when an individualistic, capitalist, super-competitive society contains individuals with nothing do to but live in the moment and try to be as free as can be.

hiphop adherants, like the graffiti artist, have flipped the capitalist attitude of competitive living on its head.

hiphop is our most powerful modern social revolution. Sure its been co-opted by corporations and tainted for the mainstream, but once something like hiphop (as demonstrated by graffiti) starts, it can never stop until it becomes the dominant paradigm.

hiphop is the ongoing battle for control of our mental environments. The more corporations try to flood our sight with advertisements for useless products, the more graffiti artists will flood the streets with bright colours that hold subversive and positive messages.

in the words of the RZA

Positive
Energy
Activates
Constant
Elevation



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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1579705 - 05/26/03 11:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Where can I buy it?

I want a hyperlink to amazon that i can click. Thanks.


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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Revelation]
    #1579726 - 05/26/03 11:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

buy what, the Mr. Lif cd? go to your local independant record store.

anyways. I think if anyone reading this post has any revolutionary spirit and/or artistic ability, they should go out and buy a big black marker and start scribbling their thoughts all over the city.

DO IT!!!!!!


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580222 - 05/27/03 02:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

quote from infamous graffiti artist phase 2:

"I call myself a techno-symbolist. The term "graffiti is not what we called it. We called it art. It got tagged graffiti by magazines, newspapers, and politicians. It's not just about writing letters but about RIGHTING letters. I call it "Higherglyphics". Language in every essence is always subject to questioning."


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580236 - 05/27/03 02:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


I like Hip-Hop. I hate rap. Too bad they are almost indistingishable nowadays.  :tongue:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



Edited by Murex (05/27/03 02:27 AM)


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Murex]
    #1580243 - 05/27/03 02:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

your sarcasm is not appreciated.

you were being sarcastic right? for your sake....I hope you were.

because if you were not, you are about to experience what it feels like to be publicly de-constructed.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580251 - 05/27/03 02:29 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


I edited it.

Old-skool Hip-Hop is the shiznit! Really, no joke. It was good stuff with good messages for the most part. Then (c)rap came around and twisted Hip-Hip into the most shitty music there is. No creativity whatsoever in rap.


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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Murex]
    #1580258 - 05/27/03 02:33 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yes, there is no creativity in what MTV shows, but that is not hiphop....that is corporate pop.

hiphop is alive and well. its kickin harder than ever before, you just gotta look further than your television.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Murex]
    #1580268 - 05/27/03 02:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

What... you guys don't like MC Hammer?

[/sarcasm]



Mr. Lif?
*scribble scribble*
Well alright then...


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580271 - 05/27/03 02:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


I really hate how tv says- this is hip hop, and shows gangsta rap. They should continue to be very seperated forms of music. Now people will confuze Hip-hop with rap (which I thought you were talkin about). Now I assume everyone confuzes hip-hop with rap.


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Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580284 - 05/27/03 02:40 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I like hiphop, it's the only truly angry music out there right now...

not like these "modern rock"ers faking angst, growing up in their priveliged suburban lives. it makes me sick. whatever the fuck happened to rock 'n roll anyway?



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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1580300 - 05/27/03 02:44 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

murex:

what do you consider "gangsta rap" though? lots of people think "the wu-tang clan" is gangsta, but, for the most part (allthough a few members drop shitty albums" the wu-tang clan are just discussing social issues in a really intelligent manner.

but yeah, the insurgence of "rap" into the public consciousness taints peoples perceptions of HipHop. its like people confusing skinhead hardcore with punk rock.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580303 - 05/27/03 02:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

whatever the fuck happened to rock 'n roll anyway?

it got really rich and really fat and overdosed on drugs while taking a shit.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580321 - 05/27/03 02:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

it got really rich and really fat and overdosed on drugs while taking a shit.

pretty close... don't forget they also chocked on their own vomit of embarrasing excess and in their despair put a shotgun in their collective mouths and pulled the trigger with their fucking toes... good riddance.


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580322 - 05/27/03 02:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


I never listened to Wu-Tang clan.

Sadly, I gave up trying to sort through the shit while trying to find good Hip-hop.


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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1580327 - 05/27/03 02:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

whatever the fuck happened to rock 'n roll anyway?

Oh... it's still around.
Maybe after this boy band shit clears up it'll take the main stage again.




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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1580332 - 05/27/03 02:54 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


pretty close... don't forget they also chocked on their own vomit of embarrasing excess and in their despair put a shotgun in their collective mouths and pulled the trigger with their fucking toes... good riddance.

Yeah, good riddance to Kurt Cobain and all thoze sad/angry pussies! Fuck them!


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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Murex]
    #1580344 - 05/27/03 02:57 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


All theze angry people making music should just fucking let it go! It isn't worth devoting all that time to. It just shows how thin-skinned theze people are. They need to grow up and learn to deal with life.


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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: Murex]
    #1580348 - 05/27/03 02:58 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Give me Classic Rock anyday. grunge, modern rock, alternative... they're just poor excuses for REAL ROCK.

The more that you give, the more it will take
to the thin line beyond which you really can't fake


- Grateful Dead



Edited by infidelGOD (05/27/03 02:58 AM)


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Re: HipHop and social r/evolution [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1580369 - 05/27/03 03:04 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


I prefer lyricless electronic muzak.


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Is an elaborate dream?
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