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mrosef
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DMT extraction from Yucca
#15770910 - 02/06/12 09:29 PM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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I have a beautiful Yucca plant outside and i have some free time tomorrow and want to try my hands at extracting DMT from the Yucca plant. i know it doesnt contain as much as mimosa bark.
Could i follow a DMT extraction tek and just add the yucca instead? any advice for this subject? im a n00b and a mad DIYer. so any help for this would be great.
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: mrosef]
#15771244 - 02/06/12 10:35 PM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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I never heared that Yucca spp. conain any DMT. Wich species do you want to use for extraction?
The method for extraction is always the same. But the yield will be bad if the concentration of DMT is as low as I believe (if there is any DMT in Yucca spp.). And you will probably have problems with polysaccharids But just try it.
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mrosef
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honestly i have no idea what species it is what so ever. i was gonna look for a common flower color and stuff. Im also concerned with the plant fat it will contain but couldnt i just keep evap it to purify it.
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: mrosef]
#15771300 - 02/06/12 10:53 PM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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Hi
For an acid/base extraction plant fat is usually no problem. Polysaccharids are worse, because you will have slime in your glassware...
Where did you red that Yucca contain DMT?
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heard rumors about it being in yucca seeds but that still sounds off.
why yucca over MHRB, Phalaris Grass, etc?
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: nottheusual]
#15772684 - 02/07/12 08:06 AM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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nottheusual said: heard rumors about it being in yucca seeds but that still sounds off.
why yucca over MHRB, Phalaris Grass, etc?
I wanted to do it today cause of my free time and its available right now and i dont have go to a head shop to get MHRB. so no gas and $$ is wasted!! as far as yucca containing dmt i really dont know but i just heard that living things contain it so might as well give it a shot.
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: mrosef]
#15772788 - 02/07/12 08:43 AM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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I would say don't bother. I googled this and there are not reports of any decent concentration of DMT in Yucca.
When you do an extraction on a plant DMT isn't the only thing you're extracting. And if the plant isn't known for having a decent concentration of DMT you're just extracting a bunch of shit you don't want if anything at all.
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: mrosef]
#15772977 - 02/07/12 09:25 AM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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mrosef said: as far as yucca containing dmt i really dont know but i just heard that living things contain it so might as well give it a shot.
LOL. Wow...
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I really have nothing to lose here. except time. which is why iam doing this to kill time. haha never said it will work.
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: mrosef] 1
#15773066 - 02/07/12 09:51 AM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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Let the plant live...your going to make a smelly mess and have nothing to show for it.
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: mrosef] 2
#15773134 - 02/07/12 10:06 AM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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Yeah... but who's to say what you end up extracting is even dmt?? Go ahead extract it, and smoke it, just hope you don't start convulsing, with your organs shutting down, cell walls popping, and go into a coma or death.
For all you know you end up extracting some Potassium Cyanide-hydroxide or some shit, possibly even an unknown substance...
It is not like someone just thought, "Hey, I'm gonna extract from the root bark of this plant called Mimosa hostilis. Maybe it has a chemical I can free by mixing it with Alkaline water and pulling with a solvent. The MHRB extraction was inspired by the use of Ayahuasca by aborigines for hundreds of documented years. Then it came to peoples attention that Mimosa hostilis was used in the place of Chacruna [Psychotria viridis], by other tribes, which gave it interest in the scientific community. Which in turn showed that Mimosa contains more n,n-DMT than P. viridis by weight, so Mimosa is the most popular right now.
It is also said that all cacti also produce trace amounts of Mescaline, possibly as a natural biochemical defense mechanism. That doesn't mean I am going to start blending my christmas cactus in hopes of getting something over .00000023 micrograms of mescaline, that isn't tainted by unknown chemicals.
Just like there is "Jungle spice" in Mimosa, there could be a mysterious chemical in Yucca, that of which you probably wont get lucky with on its possibility of being toxic.
Stick to Mimosa if you are going to pull anything. You say you want to save money, well you might as well use mimosa because you are going to waste a good amount of money on the supplies to potentially extract nothing, or something that may harm you.
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its okay everyone i just got off the phone with a friend of mine who actually said that is also a terrible idea and that he wants to help out. hes getting some MHRB. Hes succesfuly has done the STB tek but wants to try some other ones out there. he also mentioned me pulling out gnarly stuff as stated above. thanks you guys(and friend on phone) probably almost killed everything in my house with harmful vapors or something has anyone had success with any other teks out there?
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: mrosef]
#15773529 - 02/07/12 11:52 AM (12 years, 25 days ago) |
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crisis averted.
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: nottheusual] 2
#15773719 - 02/07/12 12:44 PM (12 years, 25 days ago) |
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STB tek is the only way to go.
It has been shown many times that an Acid is NOT needed. And definately stay away from teks with a Defatting step. There is no point. Its a waste in all aspects.
Seriously use STB if you want only n,n-DMT.
If you want the infamous, and also my favorite "Jungle Spice", do 3 pulls with Naptha in the STB tek, then use Xylol "Xylene" to pull the remainder to get 3 or more pulls of jungle spice.
DMT has always been a love of mine, Ive experimented a lot, and I have to say, I have tried nearly all teks, and STB is the only way to go because it is the... -Cheapest -Quickest -Best Yield -Least amount of Supplies Needed, and Easy to find.
With any A/B tek you are just spending more money and time, for the same thing.
If you want to get literal ROCKS of pure beautiful DMT crystals, do the STB tek, then recrystallize in Heptane multiple times.
If your solution has sat for a long time, or there is too much air contact, or you are getting an orange-yellow film at the bottom of your container you freeze precipitate in, then dissolve your crystals in warm naptha again, and mix with water/Sodium carbonate (soda ash). Seperate the layers and remove the water/sodium carbonate solution layer, and freeze precipitate as usual. This cleaning step works wonders and provides you with beautiful crystals. Also helps to remove any lye water that may have got into the naptha solution.
If you slowly work the solution to a very cold temperature you get bigger crystals. Like warm to room temp to fridge to freezer.
Also keep in mind the more you recrystallize the more you will lose. (not HUGE amounts, were talking maybe a couple mg's)
Good luck. See ya in Hyperspace.
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: mrosef]
#15773735 - 02/07/12 12:49 PM (12 years, 25 days ago) |
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mrosef said: has anyone had success with any other teks out there?
You can do acid/base extraction, straight-to-base extraction, fumaric acid and salt precipitation.
All depends on what you're going for. Pure DMT, jungle spice, etc. MHRB has many things in it that are not DMT that you can learn from. It's even orally active to some degree without a MAOI.
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https://mycotopia.net/forums/holding-tank/40969-beautiful-dmt-crystals.html Here are some pics of Crystalization in Heptane (Bestine) So beautiful.
and yeah, I wish someone would have explained all this to me years ago. Would of saved a lot of hassle and failure.
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Quote:
RigVedaLXVII.Soma said: STB tek is the only way to go.
It has been shown many times that an Acid is NOT needed. And definately stay away from teks with a Defatting step. There is no point. Its a waste in all aspects.
Seriously use STB if you want only n,n-DMT.
If you want the infamous, and also my favorite "Jungle Spice", do 3 pulls with Naptha in the STB tek, then use Xylol "Xylene" to pull the remainder to get 3 or more pulls of jungle spice.
DMT has always been a love of mine, Ive experimented a lot, and I have to say, I have tried nearly all teks, and STB is the only way to go because it is the... -Cheapest -Quickest -Best Yield -Least amount of Supplies Needed, and Easy to find.
With any A/B tek you are just spending more money and time, for the same thing.
If you want to get literal ROCKS of pure beautiful DMT crystals, do the STB tek, then recrystallize in Heptane multiple times.
If your solution has sat for a long time, or there is too much air contact, or you are getting an orange-yellow film at the bottom of your container you freeze precipitate in, then dissolve your crystals in warm naptha again, and mix with water/Sodium carbonate (soda ash). Seperate the layers and remove the water/sodium carbonate solution layer, and freeze precipitate as usual. This cleaning step works wonders and provides you with beautiful crystals. Also helps to remove any lye water that may have got into the naptha solution.
If you slowly work the solution to a very cold temperature you get bigger crystals. Like warm to room temp to fridge to freezer.
Also keep in mind the more you recrystallize the more you will lose. (not HUGE amounts, were talking maybe a couple mg's)
Good luck. See ya in Hyperspace.
upvoted for taking the time to type out those last two posts
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: AgingHippy]
#15773867 - 02/07/12 01:25 PM (12 years, 25 days ago) |
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Thanks TeeFizzle. Knowledge is Power! HAHA Nice Signature Name Tag.
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how would i use the "xylene"
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Re: DMT extraction from Yucca [Re: mrosef]
#15785346 - 02/09/12 07:24 PM (12 years, 23 days ago) |
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What do you mean??
The same way you would use Naptha, or Heptane..
Do you mean how do you get the end product from the xylene? Yeah I forgot to mention that.. You can only evaporate the Xylene, it wont freeze precipitate like Naptha will.
Also I meant to mention, that Sodium Carbonate can be bought at some stores, It is also known as Washing Soda. You can actually make it by spreading baking soda [sodium bicarbonate] on a cooking tray and put it in the oven for an hour. This will evaporate the water content of it and your end product will be Sodium Carbonate. Its best to buy it though. And remember to put in an air tight container, as water from the air will go back into it and convert it back to normal old Baking Soda.
Good luck buddy.
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Edited by RigVedaLXVII.Soma (02/09/12 07:47 PM)
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