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saidthewhale

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TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?!
#15778888 - 02/08/12 12:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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   12 Jars were inoculated last friday. about half of the jars have no growth yet, the other half of the jars have a little bit of growth but the growth looks more beige (second picture) then a bright mycellium white ? however one of my jars seems to be about 90% colonized in 5 days, thought it was awsome since the tall pf jars are said to be considerably slower at colonizing, almost seems to good to be true lol
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15778909 - 02/08/12 12:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Colonized in 5 days. That's unusually fast.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15778919 - 02/08/12 12:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe you used all your spores in that first jar or something
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Sma]
#15778934 - 02/08/12 12:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The syringe was shook up pretty well before innoculating. But that is kind of funny that some jars no growth and that one is all speedracer on me haha
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15778974 - 02/08/12 01:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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doesn't Cobweb grow that fast?
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saidthewhale

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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: crimsondrac]
#15778977 - 02/08/12 01:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Contam popped into mind when i seen how fast it colonized, but it dosent really look like cobweb does it ? confusing
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: crimsondrac]
#15778985 - 02/08/12 01:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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no thats not cob web... be sure to clone any unusually large or vigorous fruits that come out of that cake Ahhhh the wonders of MS inoculation !
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Gotlib]
#15779028 - 02/08/12 01:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Will do , i have a feeling this one is gonna be a generous fruiter. should have mentioned i used about 2 cc`s of innoculant per jar, seemed to do the trick for the taller jars
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Sma] 1
#15779248 - 02/08/12 02:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd say give it time to consolidate before even thinking about using it 
I've seen cakes take 5 days before. But that is under premium conditions, and they weren't mason jars.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15779253 - 02/08/12 02:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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that doesn't look right!
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: jwalt420]
#15779314 - 02/08/12 02:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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please keep us updated in a week after you fruit that thing...
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Did your growth look more gritty and beige almost like sand ?
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15779493 - 02/08/12 02:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks kinda funky to me.
You had 4 inoculation points?
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: DrCrumbs]
#15779536 - 02/08/12 02:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes indeed 4 inoculation points. Looks a little off to me too, gonna let it sit a couple more days see what happens with it
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15779600 - 02/08/12 03:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I could see that looking normal if it was sprayed down with MS water but not coming from four separate points.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15779650 - 02/08/12 03:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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saidthewhale said:
   12 Jars were inoculated last friday. about half of the jars have no growth yet, the other half of the jars have a little bit of growth but the growth looks more beige (second picture) then a bright mycellium white ? however one of my jars seems to be about 90% colonized in 5 days, thought it was awsome since the tall pf jars are said to be considerably slower at colonizing, almost seems to good to be true lol
That is a complete case of contamination. No spore can colonize half a litre of substrate in 5 days. 5 days is the normal germination time for regular spores. What you have there is most likely some form of mold, there are dozens. Dont make the assumption that the only thing that can attack is trich, thats not true. Ive never seen trich, but cobweb instead.
Ive looked at the picture and no cube mycelium looks like that, its frosty, almost like snow and spotty.
EDIT: I looked again and now I am 100 % sure. Thats mold. Ask some experienced growers; Evil, Professor or RR and get their opinion.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: kdmmontana]
#15779722 - 02/08/12 03:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Something does not look right to me....
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: EvilMushroom666]
#15779902 - 02/08/12 04:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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whats it smell like mushrooms? or dose it smell bad?
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: jwalt420]
#15779935 - 02/08/12 04:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah what Montana is on about.
Though I can say I've had spores germinate in 2 days. But full colonization with spores in 5 days is guaranteed contam, not to mention that doesn't look anything like Cubensis myc.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15780249 - 02/08/12 05:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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saidthewhale said:
   12 Jars were inoculated last friday. about half of the jars have no growth yet, the other half of the jars have a little bit of growth but the growth looks more beige (second picture) then a bright mycellium white ? however one of my jars seems to be about 90% colonized in 5 days, thought it was awsome since the tall pf jars are said to be considerably slower at colonizing, almost seems to good to be true lol
I just had 10 jars fully colonized in 8 days so it's not too out of the ordinary. You just know how to follow fucking instructions (unlike a lot of other people out there). Good job!
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: kdmmontana]
#15780266 - 02/08/12 05:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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gotta disagree bro. No disrespect but it looks fine to me and I've had jars colonize almost as fast.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Hang]
#15780281 - 02/08/12 05:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just had 10 jars fully colonized in 8 days so it's not too out of the ordinary. You just know how to follow fucking instructions (unlike a lot of other people out there). Good job!
ok not from spores and where is the pruff man where your pics and the mushies your mys on seroids grew
just saying its not normal so back it up you could be on to somthing
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Hang]
#15780325 - 02/08/12 05:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hang said: I just had 10 jars fully colonized in 8 days so it's not too out of the ordinary. You just know how to follow fucking instructions (unlike a lot of other people out there). Good job!
Result of a cake that took 3 weeks to colonize:

Guess I'm a tard because of the efficiency of the genetics and lack of incubation.
I stills say let them sit for a week. Just in case anything shows that should be there. You're not risking anything if that is in fact fully colonized by myc.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Icesyn]
#15780346 - 02/08/12 05:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I had KSSS from multi spore fully colonized in 9 days I started a thread about the tc I had as well that was about 90. I am giving them two weeks consolidation.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15735036/page/1
I don't know 5 days seems really quick.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Kissmegxxdnite]
#15780698 - 02/08/12 07:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The fact that I cannot see any rhizomorphic growth concerns me. If one were to colonize that quickly I would expect to see a lot of rhizomorphic growth, correct?
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: dodgem]
#15780839 - 02/08/12 07:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It takes some time for that kind of growth. rhizo is allot slower than dikaryotic.
It look like all dikaryotic myc or just a massive contam.
Time holds the answers for sure.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: dodgem]
#15780861 - 02/08/12 07:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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 this isnt mycilium because it would have long strands of white instead of this powder like texture.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: boommer]
#15780868 - 02/08/12 07:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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boommer said: this isnt mycilium because it would have long strands of white instead of this powder like texture.
.... read the post above.
You also circled the label on the jar.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Icesyn]
#15781113 - 02/08/12 08:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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contam for sure if you look close the entire thing has a powdery appearance
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Dr. No Clue]
#15781293 - 02/08/12 09:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes true.
Spores do take a while to germinate anyways.
After thinking and more staring, I agree.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Icesyn]
#15781341 - 02/08/12 09:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The jar in the second pic looks too wet to me. The jar in the first pic doesn't look like mycelium, sure it's white, but I don't see any rhizomorphic growth and it just doesn't look right.
What does it smell like? Does it smell like mushrooms? Or poop. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: carnage11]
#15781351 - 02/08/12 09:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bacteria contaminated grain spawn smelled like meal worms to me.
What kind of poop contam you got there?
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: carnage11]
#15781362 - 02/08/12 09:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you can see white spore deposits on the inside surface of the glass. There is clearly a contaminant in there which is close to the color of what you're looking for, but has sporulated directly from the mycelial stage which ,what you're looking for, does not do.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: carnage11]
#15781431 - 02/08/12 09:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cocaine contam is what ill name it , since no one else knowsss
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15781461 - 02/08/12 09:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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it will turn green within a few days, I have seen trich take over an entire tub within 24 hours.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Hang]
#15782380 - 02/09/12 04:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hang said: gotta disagree bro. No disrespect but it looks fine to me and I've had jars colonize almost as fast.
This is a natural case of an impossible event. TO tell me that your jars colonize in 9 days is just silly, its either a lie or some exxaaggerration. It takes 4-5 days for a MS spore load to germinate and at least 5 more before you see a reasonable large mycelium inside the jar. There may of course be exceptions but for now all I can say is that you are either making this up or that you lack concept of time and space.
If you "had" jars that grw that quickly then please link us to at least 3-4 other cases where this can be shown, blindly believing that germination + colonization can take place in less than 1 week is a dangerous idea to spread.
What the OP has in his jars is a clear case of contamination. I have seen countless myceliums grow and ive studied at least 60-70 jars under a magnifying glass and to this day I have never seen mycelium that looks like that.
The OP can do this to test his jar if he feels like it; smell it. Regular cube mycelium smells like fresh mushrooms and nothing else. If its trich, it will smell like trich smells. But it sure wont smell like cube mycelium.
There are methods to find out wether the OP suffers from a case of contamination or not and they are pretty simple to execute. Other than that I am of course grateful that people feel the urge to help.
Edited by kdmmontana (02/09/12 05:04 AM)
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15782388 - 02/09/12 05:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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saidthewhale said: Cocaine contam is what ill name it , since no one else knowsss
Fitting name. I remember RR mentioning this type of contamination at some point, "white flaky growth, snow white" or something in that manner. This was a warning sign.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: kdmmontana]
#15782910 - 02/09/12 09:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hang said: gotta disagree bro. No disrespect but it looks fine to me and I've had jars colonize almost as fast.
This is a natural case of an impossible event. TO tell me that your jars colonize in 9 days is just silly, its either a lie or some exxaaggerration. It takes 4-5 days for a MS spore load to germinate and at least 5 more before you see a reasonable large mycelium inside the jar. There may of course be exceptions but for now all I can say is that you are either making this up or that you lack concept of time and space.
If you "had" jars that grw that quickly then please link us to at least 3-4 other cases where this can be shown, blindly believing that germination + colonization can take place in less than 1 week is a dangerous idea to spread.
What the OP has in his jars is a clear case of contamination. I have seen countless myceliums grow and ive studied at least 60-70 jars under a magnifying glass and to this day I have never seen mycelium that looks like that.
The OP can do this to test his jar if he feels like it; smell it. Regular cube mycelium smells like fresh mushrooms and nothing else. If its trich, it will smell like trich smells. But it sure wont smell like cube mycelium.
There are methods to find out wether the OP suffers from a case of contamination or not and they are pretty simple to execute. Other than that I am of course grateful that people feel the urge to help.
I'll back you on this brother! I've seen hundreds of jars/bags grow, and the only time i've had fast colonization is from g2g or agar to grain. With a good LC knock-up, i've had whole bags colonize in 14 days, but thats because of 30cc of strong LC and a good knead right after inoculation.
From spores, i've NEVER seen even 50% colonization in less than 10 days on 1/2 pints.
I'm still watching this thread cause im interested in seeing the contam result
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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: slapphappypill]
#15783030 - 02/09/12 10:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well guys the entire jar is now enveloped in a pale green. Dr no clue was correct.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: slapphappypill]
#15783045 - 02/09/12 10:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If its contams sounds alot like Mycelia Sterilia or Mucor. Maybe it is the good guys though and its just colonized the outer layer first and is workin its way in so what looks like near total colonization is only the perimeter. often large quantities of spores are deposited all around the glass esp. when using four hole tech. Some guides suggest squirting all over the glass so you can see it begin easier. In five days all these spores could have germ. and then linked up giving the false impression.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: kdmmontana]
#15783423 - 02/09/12 11:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hang said: gotta disagree bro. No disrespect but it looks fine to me and I've had jars colonize almost as fast.
This is a natural case of an impossible event. TO tell me that your jars colonize in 9 days is just silly, its either a lie or some exxaaggerration. It takes 4-5 days for a MS spore load to germinate and at least 5 more before you see a reasonable large mycelium inside the jar. There may of course be exceptions but for now all I can say is that you are either making this up or that you lack concept of time and space.
If you "had" jars that grw that quickly then please link us to at least 3-4 other cases where this can be shown, blindly believing that germination + colonization can take place in less than 1 week is a dangerous idea to spread.
What the OP has in his jars is a clear case of contamination. I have seen countless myceliums grow and ive studied at least 60-70 jars under a magnifying glass and to this day I have never seen mycelium that looks like that.
The OP can do this to test his jar if he feels like it; smell it. Regular cube mycelium smells like fresh mushrooms and nothing else. If its trich, it will smell like trich smells. But it sure wont smell like cube mycelium.
There are methods to find out wether the OP suffers from a case of contamination or not and they are pretty simple to execute. Other than that I am of course grateful that people feel the urge to help.
Look at the photo in my gallery. It is a jar at about 90% after 7 days. It was 100% after 8 and sat for a week to consolidate.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Hang]
#15783443 - 02/09/12 11:57 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bummer dude, how are the other jars doing?
If you still have the infected jars, could you post another pic now that they are green for the tread?
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: DrCrumbs]
#15783467 - 02/09/12 12:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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My last set of jars got to 100% in just 12 days from MS, unfortunately I learned what trich mycelium looks like very well after attempting g2g in the home of someone who is not too preoccupied with small things like cleanliness or hygiene. I lost 96 jars that week but more importantly I lost the last remaining trace of my PE Isolate toss them yesterday or you will mess up your entire grow area trust me.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Dr. No Clue]
#15783494 - 02/09/12 12:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dr. No Clue said: My last set of jars got to 100% in just 12 days from MS, unfortunately I learned what trich mycelium looks like very well after attempting g2g in the home of someone who is not too preoccupied with small things like cleanliness or hygiene. I lost 96 jars that week but more importantly I lost the last remaining trace of my PE Isolate toss them yesterday or you will mess up your entire grow area trust me.
yea people spread mold spores everywhere in their grow space when they go to smell a funky jar.... i use my shed for expirements on contaminated cakes... like cutting off the mold and then using the rest as spawn for coir... and even before i can walk back into the house i gotta change my cloths in the backyard.. mold spores can go everywhere.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: boommer]
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Fortunately i didnt open the jar to smell it because i could tell by the colour that it was obvbiously contaminated is it likely or unlikely for jars in the same drawer to get the contam from one jar to another if the lids have always been kept closed ?
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15783551 - 02/09/12 12:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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saidthewhale said: Fortunately i didnt open the jar to smell it because i could tell by the colour that it was obvbiously contaminated is it likely or unlikely for jars in the same drawer to get the contam from one jar to another if the lids have always been kept closed ?
is there holes in the lid? do you have a verm layer on top of the cake?
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: boommer]
#15783559 - 02/09/12 12:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes 4 holes in the lid and a verm layer, no microspore tape or anything of the sort.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15783561 - 02/09/12 12:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Starting to turn a bit green now. I would remove it from the area. But as long as the lid has been closed you should be ok. Can never be too careful though. How's that other jar looking? Any signs of growth yet?
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: carnage11]
#15783582 - 02/09/12 12:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its already been removed from my area this morning. kept half of my jars in one side of my room in a drawer and the other half of the jars in my closet on the other side of the room. the ones in the closet show no signs of growth yet so hoping no contams reached those ones and are still viable.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15783627 - 02/09/12 12:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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yea deff just toss the jar or if your gonna open it then open it outside that must have about a billion spores in it very unsafe to breath it in or open it in your house/grow area.
for the most part i believe your jars will be safe.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#15783864 - 02/09/12 01:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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saidthewhale said: Fortunately i didnt open the jar to smell it because i could tell by the colour that it was obvbiously contaminated is it likely or unlikely for jars in the same drawer to get the contam from one jar to another if the lids have always been kept closed ?
Never take a whiff of a jar that you know is contaminated it will mess u up trust me and if you are going to attempt it I don't recommend the smell test with the lid off, when I shake fully colonized jars I can smell the mycelium through the tyvek at arms length. And yes it will spread through the lid to the rest of the jars toss it and avoid rapid movements tyvek will not keep in or out 100% of contams something will eventually get through if provoked.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Dr. No Clue]
#15783878 - 02/09/12 01:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Filters are not 100%, that's why we need to toss out contaminated jars as soon as discovered. I've often had a jar get trich, and then a few days later discover it in adjacent jars on the same shelf. If a filter stops 99.99% of a few billion spores, that's still a few thousand that can get through. RR
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Dr. No Clue]
#15784011 - 02/09/12 02:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Best bet is to just bury it in your backyard. This way nothing can spread to your other jars, and who knows.....one day you mind find a nice big juicy mushroom growing in your backyard.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: Hang]
#15784236 - 02/09/12 03:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hang said: gotta disagree bro. No disrespect but it looks fine to me and I've had jars colonize almost as fast.
This is a natural case of an impossible event. TO tell me that your jars colonize in 9 days is just silly, its either a lie or some exxaaggerration. It takes 4-5 days for a MS spore load to germinate and at least 5 more before you see a reasonable large mycelium inside the jar. There may of course be exceptions but for now all I can say is that you are either making this up or that you lack concept of time and space.
If you "had" jars that grw that quickly then please link us to at least 3-4 other cases where this can be shown, blindly believing that germination + colonization can take place in less than 1 week is a dangerous idea to spread.
What the OP has in his jars is a clear case of contamination. I have seen countless myceliums grow and ive studied at least 60-70 jars under a magnifying glass and to this day I have never seen mycelium that looks like that.
The OP can do this to test his jar if he feels like it; smell it. Regular cube mycelium smells like fresh mushrooms and nothing else. If its trich, it will smell like trich smells. But it sure wont smell like cube mycelium.
There are methods to find out wether the OP suffers from a case of contamination or not and they are pretty simple to execute. Other than that I am of course grateful that people feel the urge to help.
Look at the photo in my gallery. It is a jar at about 90% after 7 days. It was 100% after 8 and sat for a week to consolidate.
Well a picture doesnt prove that, just what you say. Maybe if you bothered with taking 8 pictures during 8 days showing the growth, just like I did with my jars.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#21301105 - 02/19/15 09:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I get about 90% growth in 14 days wich seems pretty normal
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: saidthewhale]
#21301457 - 02/19/15 10:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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saidthewhale said: The syringe was shook up pretty well before innoculating. But that is kind of funny that some jars no growth and that one is all speedracer on me haha
Hey as long as it dont turn colors or smell like bacon you should be good.
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Re: TALL half pint brf jar colonized in 5 days ?! [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21301901 - 02/20/15 12:30 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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3 year old thread fellas
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