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FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens)
#15772864 - 02/07/12 09:01 AM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-usa-fbi-extremists-idUSTRE81600V20120207
(Reuters) - Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.
These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.
The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.
Routine encounters with police can turn violent "at the drop of a hat," said Stuart McArthur, deputy assistant director in the FBI's counterterrorism division.
"We thought it was important to increase the visibility of the threat with state and local law enforcement," he said.
In May 2010, two West Memphis, Arkansas, police officers were shot and killed in an argument that developed after they pulled over a "sovereign citizen" in traffic.
Last year, an extremist in Texas opened fire on a police officer during a traffic stop. The officer was not hit.
Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said.
"We are being inundated right now with requests for training from state and local law enforcement on sovereign-related matters," said Casey Carty, an FBI supervisory special agent.
FBI agents said they do not have a tally of people who consider themselves "sovereign citizens."
J.J. MacNab, a former tax and insurance expert who is an analyst covering the sovereign movement, has estimated that it has about 100,000 members.
Sovereign members often express particular outrage at tax collection, putting Internal Revenue Service employees at risk.
(Reporting By Patrick Temple-West; Editing by Kevin Drawbaugh)
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: treesniper119]
#15772918 - 02/07/12 09:11 AM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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Burn the gypsies.
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: treesniper119] 2
#15772972 - 02/07/12 09:24 AM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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18 people is enough! Gotta take precautionary measures NOW! they cant have people becoming sovereigns left and right, you can't bully or control those people like you can US citi-slaves.
Well that was refreshing, now that my brain is all washed, I think I'll go fill out my "voluntary tax forms"
Not!
I'd rather fill out my UCC form and become a sovereign myself, have diplomatic immunity, sue anyone, US corporation, or government establishment that attempts to tax my old straw man corporation, and receive the money that is attached to my birth certificate, which now a day, that amount would be over a million dollars. Per sovereign. Shhhhh.....
but be warned... this is an outrage against the redemption movement, the occupy movement, and anyone else who is upset at our unprecedented economic situation that our overspending over taxing government has landed us in.
"A 2011 NPR report claimed some of the people associated with this movement were imprisoned in a highly restrictive Communication Management Unit" ...whatever that means, we can't have you telling others that taxes are really unnecessary, or that you have the right to keep all of what you work hard for.
All this stems from the removal of the Gold standard, i guess you better arrest Dr. Ron Paul & the majority of our troops and youth that support his conservative views as well.
Though that would be fitting for our quazi-Demacrapublicanliberal "Mega-incarceration Prison States of America."
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Edited by treesniper119 (02/07/12 10:46 AM)
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: treesniper119]
#15774510 - 02/07/12 03:39 PM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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this thread is actually pretty funny.
FBI believes we're all terrorists by wanting sovereignty? good luck on your prison plans, America!
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: uber_aj]
#15775467 - 02/07/12 06:42 PM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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so they're gonna scare the living shit out of police dept so cops ONLY see sovereign citizens as a terrorist and should be treated like an armed and dangerous person...aka shoot first ask questions later.
yay freedom
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: poiuytrewa]
#15775553 - 02/07/12 06:58 PM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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I really feel that shit is gonna be hitting the fan soon. Prepare for martial law, its coming.
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#15775569 - 02/07/12 07:01 PM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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it's not coming. it's slowing, if anything...
it's just that, people who wish to infringe on people's rights.. have the watchful eye of the people to regard as their enemy. they must work slow, determinate and only as far as they need to, to inch in on making the "perfect system".
it's not something that happens in a year or even a century.
it takes lots and lots of moves.
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: treesniper119]
#15775581 - 02/07/12 07:02 PM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
treesniper119 said: I'd rather fill out my UCC form and become a sovereign myself, have diplomatic immunity, sue anyone, US corporation, or government establishment that attempts to tax my old straw man corporation, and receive the money that is attached to my birth certificate, which now a day, that amount would be over a million dollars. Per sovereign.
write us from prison to tell us how that's working out for you
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15775589 - 02/07/12 07:03 PM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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captain obvious, to the rescue!
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: akira_akuma]
#15775627 - 02/07/12 07:10 PM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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this thread needed saving
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15775635 - 02/07/12 07:11 PM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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well, that's true.
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: akira_akuma]
#15775731 - 02/07/12 07:27 PM (12 years, 11 days ago) |
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I thought this had to be an Onion article. Scary.
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: MelloRed]
#15778411 - 02/08/12 10:18 AM (12 years, 10 days ago) |
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write us from prison to tell us how that's working out for you...
will do.
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: treesniper119]
#15778439 - 02/08/12 10:26 AM (12 years, 10 days ago) |
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thats fucking scary man, i heard about accessing the money that is attached to your birth certificate, but i heard once you register your child then they become property of the government and you lose the ability to collect it. 
thats ucc/ppsa thing is so damn complicated and i've never heard of anyone succeeding in gettting anything from it. but ya, back on topic.
this is a fucking scary article.
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Re: FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists (soverign citizens) [Re: K Y L E]
#15778484 - 02/08/12 10:38 AM (12 years, 10 days ago) |
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more along the lines that you'd have to own a large property or multiple properties right next to each other, then file your UCC form, then that land you own becomes your sovereign nation. You'd have your kid on your land in its own nation. within the nation of the USA. They couldn't and wouldn't be able to do shit, unless you gave them a reason (or they made one up) to remove you from the united states (as a terrorist) Family Guy did a parody called "petoria" that is pretty funny. All about Peter Griffin becoming diplomatically immune.
-------------------- Icelander said: I'd like to fund unlimited abortions. Finally some good coming from my tax dollars. Repetoire89 said: I love abortion and fully condone it - some should make it into a sport. Treesniper119 said: Any one who is willing to start life & also willing to deny life to their form/seed/child/offspring is cursed. For you have severed your own cord to lifes worth. Anyone who condones these actions is cursed as well...
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