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Re: Hunting Nazis: Anonymous snares Ron Paul in Operation Blitzkrieg [Re: Asante]
    #15757023 - 02/03/12 05:47 PM (12 years, 22 days ago)

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Bodhi whats most disturbing to me is that if you compare these earths, the land mass of the continental USA appears to have increased threefold.




I know, upon looking closer you can also see some funky looking pixels :lol: I'll get around to changing it...eventually.


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Re: Hunting Nazis: Anonymous snares Ron Paul in Operation Blitzkrieg [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #15757037 - 02/03/12 05:50 PM (12 years, 22 days ago)

Occams razor is weaksauce and for a reasonable cause for the government being suspect you need look no farther then their usual colorful antics over the course of the last 50 years.


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Re: Hunting Nazis: Anonymous snares Ron Paul in Operation Blitzkrieg [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15757656 - 02/03/12 07:54 PM (12 years, 22 days ago)

Ron paul is not "against" gay marriage or drug use.

those are relatively trivial topics anyway.

he supports your freedom to be gay or abuse drugs, but he does nit ENDORSE it.

there is a differencs between non endorsement and opposition.

Paul says "i support your freedom to be a gay drug abuser, but i dont personally choose to support you or give you special rights."

he wants marriage COMPLETELY out of government.  he thinks marriage should be private and in any form you want.

he just doesnt personally prefer to have a homosexual marriage; that doesn NOT mean he does not support YOUR liberty to do so.


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Re: Hunting Nazis: Anonymous snares Ron Paul in Operation Blitzkrieg [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #15757669 - 02/03/12 08:00 PM (12 years, 22 days ago)

So the Illuminati are posing as Anons now... interesting.


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Re: Hunting Nazis: Anonymous snares Ron Paul in Operation Blitzkrieg [Re: 404]
    #15757726 - 02/03/12 08:15 PM (12 years, 22 days ago)

Duh man... they have since the beginning.

mark my words anon is a trojan horse being used to encourage support for a crackdown on internet freedom.


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Re: Hunting Nazis: Anonymous snares Ron Paul in Operation Blitzkrieg [Re: Shins]
    #15758757 - 02/04/12 01:33 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

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Duh man... they have since the beginning.

mark my words anon is a trojan horse being used to encourage support for a crackdown on internet freedom.



Word. :macdre:


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Re: Hunting Nazis: Anonymous snares Ron Paul in Operation Blitzkrieg [Re: ilike_trees]
    #15758772 - 02/04/12 01:46 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

"Ron Paul's racist politics and affiliations are already well known, being viciously anti-immigrant, anti-abortion and against gay marriage"

oh really... against gay marriage aye? antiimmagrant? come on.

does anyone who regular listens to ron paul speek actually think this guy is a racist?

this is wierd.. anonymous attacking ron paul is just :lolwut:


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Re: Hunting Nazis: Anonymous snares Ron Paul in Operation Blitzkrieg [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #15759299 - 02/04/12 07:56 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

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"Ron Paul's racist politics and affiliations are already well known, being viciously anti-immigrant, anti-abortion and against gay marriage"

oh really... against gay marriage aye? antiimmagrant? come on.




Asked his opinion on same-sex marriage in October 2011, Paul replied, “Biblically and historically, the government was very uninvolved in marriage. I like that. I don't know why we should register our marriage to the federal government. I think it's a sacrament.” In the same interview, when asked whether he would vote for or against a state constitutional amendment like California's Proposition 8, he said, “Well, I believe marriage is between one man and one woman.”

Paul has also said that at the federal level he opposes “efforts to redefine marriage as something other than a union between one man and one woman.” He believes that recognizing or legislating marriages should be left to the states and local communities, and not subjected to "judicial activism." He has said that for these reasons he would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, had he been in Congress in 1996. The act allows a state to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries, although a state will usually recognize marriages performed outside of its own jurisdiction. The act also prohibits the U.S. Government from recognizing same-sex marriages, even if a state recognizes the marriage.

Paul has been a cosponsor of the Marriage Protection Act in each Congress since the bill's original introduction. It would bar federal judges from hearing cases pertaining to the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act. Speaking in support of the Marriage Protection Act in 2004, he urged those of his fellow congressional representatives who “believe Congress needs to take immediate action to protect marriage” to vote for the bill because its passage, requiring only simple majorities in both Houses of Congress, would be much more readily achieved than the passage of the Federal Marriage Amendment, which, as a Constitutional amendment, would require not only much larger majorities in both Houses but also ratification by the state legislatures.

In February 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Obama administration's Justice Department had determined that a key provision of the Defense of Marriage Act was unconstitutional and, as a result, the administration would no longer argue in support of the act's constitutionality in court. Paul issued a statement to Iowa Republicans criticizing the Obama administration's position, saying: "Like the majority of Iowans, I believe that marriage is between one man and one woman and must be protected. I supported the Defense of Marriage Act, which used Congress’ constitutional authority to define what other states have to recognize under the Full Faith and Credit Clause, to ensure that no state would be forced to recognize a same sex marriage license issued in another state."

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Apart from the idea that the federal gov't should not be involved in the union of marriage at all, his personal views regarding gay marriage is quite clear. Against gay marriage? Check!



Paul believes illegal aliens take a toll on welfare and Social Security and would end such benefits, concerned that uncontrolled immigration makes the U.S. a magnet for illegal aliens, increases welfare payments, and exacerbates the strain on an already highly unbalanced federal budget.

Paul believes that illegal immigrants should not be given an "unfair advantage" under law. He has advocated for a "coherent immigration policy", and has spoken strongly against amnesty for illegal aliens because he believes it undermines the rule of law, grants pardons to lawbreakers, and subsidizes more illegal immigration. Paul voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, authorizing an additional 700 miles (1100 kilometers) of double-layered fencing between the U.S. and Mexico mainly because he wanted enforcement of the law and opposed amnesty, not because he supported the construction of a border fence.

Paul believes that mandated hospital emergency treatment for illegal aliens should be ceased and that assistance from charities should instead be sought because there should be no federal mandates on providing health care for illegal aliens.

Paul also believes children born in the U.S. to illegal aliens should not be granted automatic birthright citizenship. He has called for a new Constitutional amendment to revise fourteenth amendment principles and "end automatic birthright citizenship", and believes that welfare issues are directly tied to the illegal immigration problem.

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Looks like a bunch of policies designed to make life more difficult for immigrants, without providing any attempt to remove the actual reasons for illegal immigration in itself. Against immigrants (because no one is illegal)? Check.



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does anyone who regular listens to ron paul speek actually think this guy is a racist?



Does anyone claiming to regularly listen to Ron Paul speak actually take the time to understand the effects his policies will have or his motivating cause for creating these policies? Or do you just stop at 'End the Fed' and 'He wants to end the federal drug war'?


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