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Thirty30


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Injecting Popcorn Jars
#15757684 - 02/03/12 08:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have been looking up popcorn teks and I am curious how you inject the spores. I dont think you would drill 4 holes like the regular pf tek cause there is no verm layer. Iv heard of using some kind of filter? It looks like a coffee filter over the top. From there poking the syringe through the filter and injecting some spores.
So whats a good way to go about doing this? Also how much solution do you inject?
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Injecting Popcorn Jars [Re: Thirty30]
#15757715 - 02/03/12 08:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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For grain jars I would suggesting making proper lids with either some RTV silicone for an injection site, or Self Healing Injection Ports (SHIPS).
As well you want to provide filtered gas exchange. You can do this in a few different ways. You can stuff a hole with polyfill, silicone some easy felt over the hole, or cut a synthetic filter disc into 5-6 small circles and use that.
Many different people use different designs for their lids but two things stay constant: 1) Some method of providing filtered gas exchange 2) A way to be able to inject spores into the spawn without allowing in contamination.
Do some research to see what others prefer, and then try a method that tickles your fancy.
As far as the amount of spore solution to use, 1cc per 500ml-1L jar will work fine, but you can always get away with using less.
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Thirty30


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Re: Injecting Popcorn Jars [Re: Swwert]
#15757779 - 02/03/12 08:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wouldn't you want more than just that one hole to achieve better gas exchange?
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Injecting Popcorn Jars [Re: Thirty30]
#15757787 - 02/03/12 08:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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That depends on the size of the hole. Check out this link and you may get a better understanding of construction proper lids brother:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14186384#14186384
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Thirty30


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Right on thanks mang
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Thirty30


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In his method he put the RTV Red stuff over the inoculation hole, now when you go to inoculate the jar i assume you just stick the needle through the RTV?
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Injecting Popcorn Jars [Re: Thirty30]
#15757970 - 02/03/12 09:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Correct. Flame sterilize your needle, allow a few drops to pass down the needle to cool the metal, and then puncture the RTV port with the syringe.
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Thirty30


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One last question would be do you replace the RTV and filter disc after each use?
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Injecting Popcorn Jars [Re: Thirty30]
#15758004 - 02/03/12 09:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can get away with a few uses easily. Just be sure to make sure the filter is still firmly attached before re-using, and if it is not simply re silicone it in place.
As for the RTV injection hole, I would pull it off and cover it in fresh silicone after a couple uses personally.
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Thirty30


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Alright, I think thats all I needed. +5 for you
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Re: Injecting Popcorn Jars [Re: Thirty30]
#15758764 - 02/04/12 01:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Another tip is to use the clear rtv, because you need to kinda swirl it around the hole to make sure its secure. That way you can see the actual hole and don't stab the metal lid and dull up your needle.
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Thirty30


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Re: Injecting Popcorn Jars [Re: Diesel_Dawg]
#15758824 - 02/04/12 02:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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thats thinkin ahead right there
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