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njrepoman
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Thin casing at time of spawn to bulk bad idea?
#15756477 - 02/03/12 03:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What if when spawning to bulk (wbs->poo) one adds a thin casing to protect the tray?
Isn't this exactly what the PF method uses to protect from contams? Would this create an overlay condition? Has anyone tried this?
I'm thinking of adding a 1/4 inch layer of casing soil over a 4" sub at mixing time. Bad idea?
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livenotonevil
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Re: Thin casing at time of spawn to bulk bad idea? [Re: njrepoman]
#15756521 - 02/03/12 03:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I always thought the reason you case after is the colonization will just eat most top layers if you do it too early.
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Re: Thin casing at time of spawn to bulk bad idea? [Re: livenotonevil]
#15756664 - 02/03/12 04:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's a GOOD idea to make sure your grains are covered by your bulk sub. Pasteurized poo is very resistant to contams if properly pasteurized. No need for another layer. It WILL get colonized anyway, and won't be like there was a layer at all. Might not hurt but wouldn't be worth it anyway IMO
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livenotonevil
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Re: Thin casing at time of spawn to bulk bad idea? [Re: Violet]
#15756694 - 02/03/12 04:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Violet said: It's a GOOD idea to make sure your grains are covered by your bulk sub. Pasteurized poo is very resistant to contams if properly pasteurized. No need for another layer. It WILL get colonized anyway, and won't be like there was a layer at all. Might not hurt but wouldn't be worth it anyway IMO
So your saying to case after colonization. BUT not to leave grains exposed on mixing your bulk. Is this like a casing? Case it on mixing and let it colonize, then case again?
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njrepoman
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Re: Thin casing at time of spawn to bulk bad idea? [Re: livenotonevil]
#15756736 - 02/03/12 04:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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livenotonevil said:
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Violet said: It's a GOOD idea to make sure your grains are covered by your bulk sub. Pasteurized poo is very resistant to contams if properly pasteurized. No need for another layer. It WILL get colonized anyway, and won't be like there was a layer at all. Might not hurt but wouldn't be worth it anyway IMO
So your saying to case after colonization. BUT not to leave grains exposed on mixing your bulk. Is this like a casing? Case it on mixing and let it colonize, then case again?
The reason I wanted to try was because there are always many naked grains on top of the sub, and I have before added a thin layer of poo to protect them. I thought it would even be more protective to add a sliver of non-nutritious layer as the PF tek prescribes.
I don't want to waste a tub repeating someone's mistake tho.
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Violet



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Re: Thin casing at time of spawn to bulk bad idea? [Re: njrepoman]
#15757705 - 02/03/12 08:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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You were doing it well enough with the extra bit of bulk sub on top. I just make sure no seeds are uncovered when I'm done mixing, it's really the same thing. But grains are your inoculation points and putting a layer of sub on top leaves just that much more on top to be colonized and consolidated before ideal fruiting. Your idea of a protective layer won't be able to protect your mycelium any better than they can protect themselves and may give contams an environment to germinate and get a clean start.
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