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Is this bruising or contamination
    #15755726 - 02/03/12 12:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)


This is my first project. I noticed some, what looked to be, blue bruising on one of the cakes about a week after pulling them in the incubation chamber. I think it has spread to the other cakes in the incubation chamber, that is to say that now all three that I have in there are showing the same blue bruising. The blue contamination/bruising has spread slightly in the past few days. Can anyone tell me if i should trash these cakes or if they are ok....
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Re: Is this bruising or contamination [Re: tha]
    #15755737 - 02/03/12 12:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Looks like bruising to me


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Re: Is this bruising or contamination [Re: PsillySighBen]
    #15755759 - 02/03/12 12:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Looks like bruising. If you have been picking them up to examine it that might explain the spreading.


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Re: Is this bruising or contamination [Re: Kizzle]
    #15756075 - 02/03/12 01:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you for the quick reply and the helpful answers!

May I ask a few more questions while I have your attention?

First, I pulled the cakes out as soon as I saw that they were fully white. After reading some it appears that I should have waited a while longer before I pulled the cakes out of the jars. Is there a rule for this or just a time issue?

Second, I have been reading about a “dunk and roll” in my initial research I did not find any information on this, is this something that is done right after removing the cakes form the jars or should it just be done after the flushes?

Third, it looks like many of the pictures I have seen have some substance on the floor of the fruiting chamber, I have mine directly on the floor without and substrate (although it is on the jar lid) is this not recommended? What should I put on the floor of the chamber?

Thank you again for taking the time to help me in my first grow.
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Re: Is this bruising or contamination [Re: tha]
    #15757401 - 02/03/12 07:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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First, I pulled the cakes out as soon as I saw that they were fully white. After reading some it appears that I should have waited a while longer before I pulled the cakes out of the jars. Is there a rule for this or just a time issue?



I would wait a week after they are 100% colonized or until they start pinning in the jar, whichever happens first.

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Second, I have been reading about a “dunk and roll” in my initial research I did not find any information on this, is this something that is done right after removing the cakes form the jars or should it just be done after the flushes?



You would typically dunk the cakes for 24 hours then roll them in dry vermiculite (obviously you don't want want to dry the cake before doing this or it won't stick) then place them in the fruiting chamber. This would be either done just after you remove them from the jar or if you have enough space you can just add water to the jar and let them soak like that before you remove them. After that you would want to dunk again between flushes but not roll.

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Third, it looks like many of the pictures I have seen have some substance on the floor of the fruiting chamber, I have mine directly on the floor without and substrate (although it is on the jar lid) is this not recommended? What should I put on the floor of the chamber?



I'm guessing you are talking about perlite. You can use wet perlite to keep the humidity high in a fruiting chamber. Then you would want to place something (a lid, foil, whatever)under the cakes so they aren't sitting directly on the perlite.


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Re: Is this bruising or contamination [Re: tha]
    #15757509 - 02/03/12 07:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

1.  It is best to wait another week after seeing full colonization, I  believe this gives the mycelium time to consolidate.

2. After you've colonized your substrate and given an additional consolidation week, dunk your cakes by placing them in a dark tupperware container, fill the container with water and somewhat submerge the cakes as best you can.  Leave overnight or 24hrs in a cool place, I place mine in a refrigerator. Afterwards, remove the cakes and roll them in vermiculite, covering the entirety of each cake's surface area. This increases micro-humidity. 

3. I believe what you are referring to in the pictures you've seen is perlite. Perlite increases air humidity. Once you wet your perlite, this increases the surface area of water exposed to the air thus dramatically increasing evaporation rates over the same volume of water on its own. More evaporation means higher humidity.


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Re: Is this bruising or contamination [Re: Kizzle]
    #15760172 - 02/04/12 01:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you so much for your help!

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Re: Is this bruising or contamination [Re: PsillySighBen]
    #15760184 - 02/04/12 01:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you so much for your help! If I may ask one more question of you... What about the drying process? I have read into it a little but it seams like there are many ways to do it, is there one that you would recommend over another? Also, I have read that they are better fresh rather than dried. What are your thoughts on that one?

Also, if there are any pointers or helpful hints that you want to shoot my way I would be more than happy to hear them.

Thanks again
-Tha

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Re: Is this bruising or contamination [Re: tha]
    #15760877 - 02/04/12 03:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Dry in front of a fan for a couple days. If you want an accurate dry weight or plan to store them you'd want to use a desiccant like silica gel to get them cracker dry afterwards.


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