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Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate
    #15754713 - 02/03/12 04:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Wondering what is the best way to fruit fully colonized rye seed substrate jars? I was thinking of putting it in small trays with a coco fiber and Verm casing layer and put the whole thing in a Rubbermaid with perlite, but I'm not sure exactly how that whole process works or if it's the best method. Any input?

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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: Bigcmcg]
    #15754716 - 02/03/12 04:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just search for Monotub teks, There's a lot of different methods. Coir/Gypsum/Verm is a popular bulk substrate. There's others such as Straw and worm casings, or Horse poo..

Searching is key.

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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: iwaspwnd]
    #15754718 - 02/03/12 04:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've searched mono tubs but that doesn't seem to be the idea I was referring to and I don't want to deal with gypsum.

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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: Bigcmcg]
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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: crimsondrac]
    #15759202 - 02/04/12 06:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Do you pc the casing substrat first?

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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: Bigcmcg]
    #15759225 - 02/04/12 07:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

YES!  PC the casing substrate!  Cubes do not need soil bacteria to fruit so you have nothing to lose by packing the casing in jars and pcing it for an hour.  Pre-moisten it to carrying capacity first.  You can always spray it if its too dry once you apply it.  I also use the same casing substrate for a bottom casing layer.  I basically sandwich the colonized grain between two layers of casing.  Some folks say that a bottom casing layer is not  important or can lead to contam. but it has always worked great for me;  DO  sterilize it first, tho.  I also spray the rye down with filtered water before applying the top casing.  Finally, don't use clear containers or you will get pins all over  the sides  underneath the plastic

Below is cased with peat/verm plus lime and gypsum (50/50 +)

all i ever use.


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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #15763287 - 02/05/12 06:42 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Can I skip the lime and gypsum?

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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: Bigcmcg]
    #15764615 - 02/05/12 02:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the peat is acidic.  it needs a buffer.  I have never used a casing without adding lime (calcium) and gypsum (sulpher)

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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: Amanita virosa]
    #15764749 - 02/05/12 03:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Neither are available in my area. And I've read it's not necessary.

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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: Bigcmcg]
    #15764776 - 02/05/12 03:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

its not. just do the elementary coir tek. gypsum is a totally optional additive.

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Re: Best Way To Fruit Rye Substrate [Re: Munchauzen]
    #15764896 - 02/05/12 03:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks a ton guys.

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