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Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look.
    #15753620 - 02/02/12 08:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ok so Im wanting to use Gypsum in my bulk substrate. I know we measure by volume but in reference to gypsum as a whole volume is really imprecise. I recently put my pelletized gypsum in my blender to get to a really fine grade and it took over 4.5 quarts of pelletized gypsum to make 1 quart of fine gypsum, so wtf which one is correct? Please guys lets elaborate on this a little

Ps. I would really like to know what type RR uses......

Edited by Big_Sexy (02/03/12 01:09 AM)

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    #15754866 - 02/03/12 06:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: JoeMama1992]
    #15754981 - 02/03/12 08:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Montock]
    #15755067 - 02/03/12 08:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

All of the gypsum I have ever seen at stores is powder (except for drywall of course). I do not think it is that big a deal anyways as you only need a little.  I mix about a tablespoon into a gallon of water to soak the rye in.  Plus, you do not technically, really need it at all. It helps, sure, but you can noc up straight grains just as easily.

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: crimsondrac]
    #15755132 - 02/03/12 09:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Pelletized gypsum is going to throw off your figures, whether by volume or by weight, as it uses a water-soluable binding agent...  It is used for broadcasting via machinery in open field crops, etc...

Just plain powdered gypsum is roughly ~24g per 1/8 cup, iirc...

If you were following Damion5050's Bucket Coir Tek:
650g dry coconut coir
~400g dry course vermiculite
Total dry weight: ~1050g
5% of total dry weight equals ~52.5g

So; about a 1/4c of dry gypsum works out well :thumbup:


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: crimsondrac]
    #15755141 - 02/03/12 09:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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All of the gypsum I have ever seen at stores is powder (except for drywall of course). I do not think it is that big a deal anyways as you only need a little.  I mix about a tablespoon into a gallon of water to soak the rye in.  Plus, you do not technically, really need it at all. It helps, sure, but you can noc up straight grains just as easily.




dude you totally didn't read the post, but thanks for the input :laugh2: i think:casket:

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Montock]
    #15755150 - 02/03/12 09:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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You still owe hand jobs




I know, i know, pm me and we can make some arrangements for your "digital" hand job. skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet bitches :eatadick:

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #15755165 - 02/03/12 09:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Pelletized gypsum is going to throw off your figures, whether by volume or by weight, as it uses a water-soluable binding agent...  It is used for broadcasting via machinery in open field crops, etc...

Just plain powdered gypsum is roughly ~24g per 1/8 cup, iirc...

If you were following Damion5050's Bucket Coir Tek:
650g dry coconut coir
~400g dry course vermiculite
Total dry weight: ~1050g
5% of total dry weight equals ~52.5g

So; about a 1/4c of dry gypsum works out well :thumbup:




I thought the proper amount was 5% by volume, this is really imprecise, if you used 5% by volume you should have right around what 3/4 of a quart, which is a big difference from the 1/4 cup

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15755176 - 02/03/12 09:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Correct; adding additives by volume is very imprecise...  Which is why it is best done by dry weight; which is very precise :thumbup:


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #15755783 - 02/03/12 12:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I get what your saying but "theoretically" using the standard powdered gypsum, which i believe is what the 5% rule comes from, wouldn't you want to use the volume method? I see what you've done and its pretty smart, but i can't help but think that where missing something.  If we do it like your wanting to then thats roughly 1/4 cup, and if we add gypsum @5% by volume then it would be around 2 cups, which is 8 times more. I can't help but wonder If I followed what your recommending, that I might be giving my mushies only and 1/8th of what they could process efficiently.  I would really like to know what form of gypsum was used when the original 5% by volume method was deduced.

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15756741 - 02/03/12 04:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Dammit, I wanna spawn tonight but i don't know whats proper!

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15756903 - 02/03/12 05:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I use a pint of pelleted gypsum added to Damion5050's coir tek. I have a tub going right now as an experiment with twice that amount (percentage-wise, the recipe is actually cut in half for this tub), but I just spawned it last week so it's still consolidating. I used to grind it up, but don't bother anymore. The 4:1 ratio between pellets vs. powder seems about right to what I remember.


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Galaxie500]
    #15758345 - 02/03/12 11:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

oh well i guess I'm go with 3.666666% by volume of the ground up pelletized gypsum or 3/4 quarts per 20 quarts spawn, damn i was hoping RR would stop by here and break it down.

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15759263 - 02/04/12 07:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think he likes being called out just saying. if its powdered our not you could convert how man g/oz/lbs or whatever measurement is appropriate by weight like if you need a cup of powdered is 128 g it should still weigh the same as pellets....

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: undeadninja2]
    #15759392 - 02/04/12 08:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Big_Sexy...  I answered your questions (and then some); as well as explained the answer...  Yet; you delayed unnecessarily... And then; when you did proceed, you did so incorrectly :shrug:

What was the point of even asking to begin with? :uhoh:


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #15759464 - 02/04/12 09:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I am pretty sure RR uses powdered. And if you haven't noticed almost everything in this hobby is imprecise. Look at a brick of cor. No to are alike, but they still work. Don't worry so much about getting it perfect, just have fun and it will all fall together for you.

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #15759742 - 02/04/12 11:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Big_Sexy...  I answered your questions (and then some); as well as explained the answer...  Yet; you delayed unnecessarily... And then; when you did proceed, you did so incorrectly :shrug:

What was the point of even asking to begin with? :uhoh:




Dude u totally didn't read all my responses....

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15759775 - 02/04/12 11:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Didn't mean to come across harsh...

...But I did "totally read all of your responses"; and everyone else's, as well... What would have you believe that I did not :shrug:


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #15759821 - 02/04/12 11:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

In my thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15616235

I asked:

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Vibration said:
I'd like to know if 50g is a good amount to add to my bulk substrate (650g brick of coir + 3 quarts of fine verm + 3,5...4 quarts of water)

I'm asking this, because I have gypsum in 50g packages.

And if you know a good answer, how is that amount of gypsum going to affect the substrate?




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Gypsum is used to provide calcium and sulfur, both of which are essential minerals required for good fruit formation.  The pH stabilization and non-clumping properties are side benefits, not the main point.

Why 50 grams?  Don't buy food-grade gypsum from a brewery supply at 100 times the cost.  Get ground gypsum rock for 1% of the price they sell it at brew supply places.  I can get 80 pound bags for $8, but it's a lot cheaper by the truckload in bulk. I get it for $117/ton dumped right into my truck from a hopper.

Simply ask any local farmer where he gets bulk gypsum to spread on his fields.  He'll give you the industrial scale supplier where you need to be buying from.
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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Vibration]
    #15760385 - 02/04/12 01:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You should use whatever works best for you. Just try out different amounts such as 50g, 5%, 1/4 cup, and so on. Trust me when I say that you are not going to see much of a difference in using lots of gypsum vs. little gypsum, so its not something you should be worrying this much about to be honest

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: mikesethnobotany]
    #15760445 - 02/04/12 02:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Just try out different amounts such as 50g, 5%, 1/4 cup, and so on.....





This had me rollin' :lol: As per the typical standard sized monotub, 50g, 5%, 1/4 cup, are all the same amount :smile:


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #15760482 - 02/04/12 02:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:rolleyes:

You know what I mean though

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: mikesethnobotany]
    #15760500 - 02/04/12 02:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

True, true :thumbup:

I'd start with the typically used amount:  "5% of bulk dry weight" as your baseline...  Could try 2.5%, 7.5% & 10%, as well :smile:


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #15760785 - 02/04/12 03:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I guess I should have stated this in the very 1st post, here is a quote i found from RR about gypsum " *Studies at commercial mushroom farms have shown up to a 20% increase in yield when gypsum is used over the exact same strain and substrate without gypsum"  and  *10% by volume the amount of substrate is the correct amount of gypsum to use. Just eyeball it. Anywhere from 5% to 10% is fine" 

So what Im wanting to do is make sure I'm not putting a 1/4 of what 5% should be using my pelletized stuff!

Edit: This is one thing I keep on relearning here, How its hard to get across what you really need in the first post, but this is it^^^^

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15761190 - 02/04/12 05:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Grind up the pelletized gypsum and throw 1/4 cup of powder into the substrate mixture.  You're making it much more difficult than it needs to be.


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: grainbrain]
    #15761379 - 02/04/12 05:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

heck i just take out my chunk of sheetrock and grate some off it up into my soaking grains until i get tired of of grating my knuckles:shrug:


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: TacoHerder]
    #15761933 - 02/04/12 08:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If RR did see this post,
He would be disappointed
that you self bumped 3x.

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I throw in about 4ish tablespoons gypsum per coir block...
I really eyeball it, so yea...

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: total]
    #15762141 - 02/04/12 09:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Total 4ish tablespoons per coir block which is about 10 quarts of substrate, your only adding an 8th of 5%  so I'm not really sure if your doing any good, maybe you are. Your a TC ever done some straight test with your tubs: gypsum(8th of 5%) vs no gypsum.  Guys I appreciate the concern and the conversation but I'm really no closer to answering my question. I know this is an imprecise hobby but shit guys i want a 20% increase in yield, so i don't just wasn't to "throw in handful". Plus I'm a science geek, so IDK maybe will never know.

*Studies at commercial mushroom farms have shown up to a 20% increase in yield when gypsum is used over the exact same strain and substrate without gypsum"
What type of Gypsum where these commercial farms using, powder, pelletized, golden monkey, gray goose, shit brain, fuck stick, ball sack, donkey punch, or rusty horn because apparently nobody has a clue.

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15762191 - 02/04/12 09:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My best guess would be rusty horn. :thebaron:


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15762197 - 02/04/12 09:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

gypsum is gypsum, it doesnt matter the type. Find the volume of your sub, then divide by 10. Should give you the exact amount og gypsum you need.


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: TacoHerder]
    #15762212 - 02/04/12 09:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

here's what RR tells ya to do.. "*10% by volume the amount of substrate is the correct amount of gypsum to use. Just eyeball it. Anywhere from 5% to 10% is fine."


Here he tells ya what i do... "The horticultural grade gypsum I get here is obviously a biproduct of the drywall industry. It has lots of pieces of white and brown paper mixed in, just like sheetrock. I think it's the broken pieces from the manufacturing process that they chop up and put into bags. It works great. Remove the paper, but don't get too anal about a few scraps you might miss. The mycelium will colonize them easily."


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: TacoHerder]
    #15762224 - 02/04/12 09:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ooo i didn't come across that. So powder it is!!!!

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    #15762230 - 02/04/12 09:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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    #15762845 - 02/05/12 12:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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    #15762873 - 02/05/12 01:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have no idea what the basic BRF recipe is and no idea how much 5 jars would be, i don't know what size jars your talking about. I skipped that and went to bulk. So what % by volume would that be?

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #15763102 - 02/05/12 03:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Didn't mean to come across harsh...

...But I did "totally read all of your responses"; and everyone else's, as well... What would have you believe that I did not :shrug:




I don't mean to sound too harsh either but...

Same here. Same with the other threads by the op. I'm wondering what's the point. Search this stuff man. Grains can wait a while before being spawned. Time is on your side, but only if you're patient. Use that time to research, not beg for help.

It's all been said before. Eyeball it. One, two, three handfuls... doesn't matter. You're just giving the cubes some minerals and nutrients. What will matter is getting the texture and moisture right. Gypsum by it's self is a soggy mess, so just be sure to keep it fluffy and moist but not too wet. Eyeball the moisture content too =P

There's no set amount for how mush water or gypsum you add to a brick, but there is a look and feel that you can shoot for. There's no set formula for ingretients either. Just mix, match, and toss whatever you feel like in there. Verm, gypsum, chlorella, bugs, pennies, soda, baby diapers... it doesn't mater. See what you can get away with, and you'll learn from it. Screwing up is a part of growing mushrooms. Have fun with it.


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: maug]
    #15764329 - 02/05/12 01:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I did search and didn't find the information I wanted. And its also interesting to have a live thread going so i can carry on a conversation with the community.  However, it seems like some of the questions I have nobody has a answer for.  This one is a perfect example (well it was answered after a while).  I always try and shoot for the stars rather than taking things slow, life's to short not to have this approach.  Im a science geek so things like "throw in a handful" make me cringe.  Nothing against any of you but apparently I'm asking to much or I'm asking something that isn't well known.  Im looking for good solid information, preferably from someone who has personally done xy or z before (which for some reason is really hard to do). Regardless I have learned a lot. But i keep on getting little to no information out of threads, but i guess that life, shit not always going to be awesome. Regardless this place is pretty damn cool. But i can't help but feel like you guys are being a little judgmental, at what point does a person get taken seriously on this forum, is a TC tag the only badge of honer. I might be way off base here but if you knew me, i don't think you guys would say any of the things that "aren't meant to harsh"  which can only come from a judgement mindset. Im a really geeky and intelligent dude who loves his hobby so i try to research and understand as much as i can. But I guess i should have been more concise; maybe i should have asked for peoples results with adding gypsum (or searched for it).

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15764446 - 02/05/12 01:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I support your way and I like your postings. I don't know why they are so negative. I really don't.

Keep doing what you're doing! :super:


For your information, they actually requested me to get banned from this community after my first posting. Only after admin came and told them to shut the fuck up they calmed down. You can look up my first thread. That's hilarious.


Edit: also we both have alex jones pictures as our avatars, cool.

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    #15764482 - 02/05/12 01:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Why dont you stick your head in your grain jars...see if it fits...:cool:

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: Vibration]
    #15764527 - 02/05/12 02:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Vibration said:
I support your way and I like your postings. I don't know why they are so negative. I really don't.

Keep doing what you're doing! :super:


For your information, they actually requested me to get banned from this community after my first posting. Only after admin came and told them to shut the fuck up they calmed down. You can look up my first thread. That's hilarious.


Edit: also we both have alex jones pictures as our avatars, cool.




I saw your tiny tiny bed and some underwear..:facepalm:

:ancientaliens:..I have this tub and my bed is like..this tall and like...mmm..like...mmbop...mmbop..


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: kdmmontana]
    #15764541 - 02/05/12 02:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:lol: That bed was actually built for a 8 year old me over 10 years ago and these items are probably from the 90's.


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: kdmmontana]
    #15764673 - 02/05/12 02:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:grin:

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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: kdmmontana]
    #15765145 - 02/05/12 04:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Do it right or not at all!


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Re: Calling all who use Gypsum in there substrate, lets talk people! RR please look. [Re: NiggaBeTrippin]
    #15766668 - 02/05/12 11:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Do it right or not at all!




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