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fngbronco
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Re: weak strians and the spores they produce [Re: k00laid]
#14543146 - 05/31/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Glad you popped back in k00laid!
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Feelers
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Re: weak strians and the spores they produce [Re: fngbronco]
#14544937 - 06/01/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The reason commercial culture slants are so expensive is because the people who found the strain did so by germinating thousands of spores, and grew them out individually to find the strain that did the best. Small margins on final product can have a huge affect in terms of agricultural use. When you buy a $450 slant you are buying a mycelial clone from high up the "cell division ladder". Otherwise you would be able to clone the button mushrooms from shops and make a go of it.
Even mushroom farms don't keep generating spores from the best fruits, they just find a great strain(spore isolate) and keep with it. This would indicate that while like begets like, it's no match for clone = clone. For a spore vendor to waste their time on such a momentous task would A, be stupid, and B, frivolous. If selling Cubensis culture slants was legal there is no doubt in my mind that someone would sell cultures of the strongest ones.
I'd say those GM mushrooms will make spores, because they'd have a very difficult time removing this ability.
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wood chip
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Re: weak strians and the spores they produce [Re: Feelers]
#14550716 - 06/02/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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For a spore vendor to waste their time on such a momentous task would A, be stupid, and B, frivolous
It is no exactly momentous to hold a strain on a slant and to have previous experimental knowledge as to how it will perform in regards to spore formation and the resultant diversity of new strains generated from spore crossing. All spores generated from a single slant behave similar each time they are brought into existence. I would think the random shuffle at meiosis changes each time but only within certain learned by experimental observation. Does this make sense?
I am not stating vendor do this or all vendors are the same, I am asking a question.
But, it seems like someone could do this who worked out the techniques, and if they wanted, l the spores could be consistently generated from very high quality or low quality stains by choice.
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SKrink
KING MOB


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Re: weak strians and the spores they produce [Re: wood chip]
#14551699 - 06/02/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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wood chip said: I am not stating vendor do this or all vendors are the same, I am asking a question.
But, it seems like someone could do this who worked out the techniques, and if they wanted, l the spores could be consistently generated from very high quality or low quality stains by choice.
"someone" indeed. Did you mean to write SWIM? Freudian slip alert! "if they wanted, I... could"
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k00laid
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Re: weak strians and the spores they produce [Re: wood chip]
#14552179 - 06/02/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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wood chip said: All spores generated from a single slant behave similar each time they are brought into existence. Does this make sense?
yes whats your point.
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conifer2000
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Registered: 03/30/11
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Re: weak strians and the spores they produce [Re: wood chip]
#15749029 - 02/01/12 08:19 PM (12 years, 17 days ago) |
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check out Kerrigans (Sylvan Inc) new sporeless Agaricus PATENT WO 2012/008969 A1 they are working with Romaines transgenic mushroom strains................. go figure
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maug


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Re: weak strians and the spores they produce [Re: conifer2000]
#15749128 - 02/01/12 08:36 PM (12 years, 17 days ago) |
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