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Exiledmonkies
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First monotub questions.
#15748139 - 02/01/12 05:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Been doing pf tek for awhile but now I have two rye grain jars that are fully colonized but I do not own a pressure cooker and the only substrate I have is vermiculite.
Ideas on what I should be doing?
Can I just boil substrates in prep for the tub?
How does the tub retain the right humidity during fruiting?
Thanks!
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gref
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Sorry, but your myco-logic needs work, that said, vermiculite alone cannot be used as a substrate.
Here is the best monotub tek I have seen. Follow it exactly and you will do great!
Edited by gref (02/01/12 07:15 PM)
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trophycase
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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: gref]
#15748701 - 02/01/12 07:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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How did you get 2 fully colonized rye jars without a pressure cooker? That's what I wanna know. Unless you ordered them...
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cloudsaregathering
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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: gref]
#15748814 - 02/01/12 07:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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gref said: Sorry, but your myco-logic needs work, that said, vermiculite alone cannot be used as a substrate.
Actually verm alone can be used as a substrate, prolly not the best choice but it would work, done it before...
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Exiledmonkies
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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: gref]
#15748955 - 02/01/12 08:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I order a bunch of sub jars online so they sent me the rye ones for free. Using rye is completely new to me and I only have growtent experience. :p Sooo without a pressure cooker what are my options?
I am a noob but i've done very well with Pf tek. Thanks for the link gref i'll print off those pages and get building.
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Ill-bird

Registered: 12/14/11
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Loc: Amsterdam
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get some coir and do damiens 50-50 coir verm tek
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Exiledmonkies
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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: Ill-bird]
#15749028 - 02/01/12 08:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Will the coir need to be sanitized in a pressure cooking?
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Ill-bird

Registered: 12/14/11
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Loc: Amsterdam
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that tek calls for just throwing your verm and coir in a 5 gal bucket and pouring boiling water on it and cover with lid and let set. its not true pasturization but it works. just look up the tek
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Mr.PhilCybin
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Quote:
Exiledmonkies said: Will the coir need to be sanitized in a pressure cooking?
Pasteurized* and no PC is needed.
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Edited by Mr.PhilCybin (02/01/12 10:34 PM)
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Quote:
cloudsaregathering said:
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gref said: Sorry, but your myco-logic needs work, that said, vermiculite alone cannot be used as a substrate.
Actually verm alone can be used as a substrate, prolly not the best choice but it would work, done it before...
Have you tested this?
I tried spawning to verm a while ago. It colonizes and I'm sure it offers minerals, but I got very weak/thin mycelium. I didn't have a non-verm to test biological efficiency, but the only places I saw mushrooms fruiting was directly off of the rye berries I used to spawn. In a second tub I mixed in the water from some fermenting straw, and the mycelium grew in twice as thick as the verm substrate - but it was still very weak looking.
@ op: http://www.shroomery.org/10858/How-to-do-Coir
You pasteurize coir, not sterilize. Sterilized bulk subs are pretty much guaranteed to contam. You'll be using about 1/2 a brick of coir.
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