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InvisibleExiledmonkies
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First monotub questions.
    #15748139 - 02/01/12 05:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Been doing pf tek for awhile but now I have two rye grain jars that are fully colonized but I do not own a pressure cooker and the only substrate I have is vermiculite.

Ideas on what I should be doing?

Can I just boil substrates in prep for the tub?

How does the tub retain the right humidity during fruiting?


Thanks!

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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: Exiledmonkies]
    #15748681 - 02/01/12 07:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry, but your myco-logic needs work, that said, vermiculite alone cannot be used as a substrate.

Here is the best monotub tek I have seen. Follow it exactly and you will do great!

:goodluck:

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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: gref]
    #15748701 - 02/01/12 07:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

How did you get 2 fully colonized rye jars without a pressure cooker? That's what I wanna know. Unless you ordered them...


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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: gref]
    #15748814 - 02/01/12 07:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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gref said:
Sorry, but your myco-logic needs work, that said, vermiculite alone cannot be used as a substrate.

Actually verm alone can be used as a substrate, prolly not the best choice but it would work, done it before...


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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: gref]
    #15748955 - 02/01/12 08:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I order a bunch of sub jars online so they sent me the rye ones for free. Using rye is completely new to me and I only have growtent experience. :p Sooo without a pressure cooker what are my options?

I am a noob but i've done very well with Pf tek. Thanks for the link gref i'll print off those pages and get building. :smile:

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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: Exiledmonkies]
    #15748981 - 02/01/12 08:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

get some coir and do damiens 50-50 coir verm tek

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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: Ill-bird]
    #15749028 - 02/01/12 08:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Will the coir need to be sanitized in a pressure cooking?

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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: Exiledmonkies]
    #15749047 - 02/01/12 08:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

that tek calls for just throwing your verm and coir in a 5 gal bucket and pouring boiling water on it and cover with lid and let set. its not true pasturization but it works. just look up the tek

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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: Exiledmonkies]
    #15749093 - 02/01/12 08:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Exiledmonkies said:
Will the coir need to be sanitized in a pressure cooking?




Pasteurized* and no PC is needed.



this is your friend

best of luck man.  :thumbup:


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Re: First monotub questions. [Re: cloudsaregathering]
    #15749104 - 02/01/12 08:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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cloudsaregathering said:
Quote:

gref said:
Sorry, but your myco-logic needs work, that said, vermiculite alone cannot be used as a substrate.

Actually verm alone can be used as a substrate, prolly not the best choice but it would work, done it before...




Have you tested this?

I tried spawning to verm a while ago. It colonizes and I'm sure it offers minerals, but I got very weak/thin mycelium. I didn't have a non-verm to test biological efficiency, but the only places I saw mushrooms fruiting was directly off of the rye berries I used to spawn. In a second tub I mixed in the water from some fermenting straw, and the mycelium grew in twice as thick as the verm substrate - but it was still very weak looking.

@ op:
http://www.shroomery.org/10858/How-to-do-Coir

You pasteurize coir, not sterilize. Sterilized bulk subs are pretty much guaranteed to contam. You'll be using about 1/2 a brick of coir.

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