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7 days in fc no pinning,
    #15742507 - 01/31/12 12:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have 12 cakes in a SG FC, that have been there for about a week. No pins whatsoever on any cakes. I let all of them consolidate for a week before dunk and roll. I have been fanning 6-8 times a day, mist 4-5 times. and I  followed the tek to build the FC exactly. I have about 5 inches of perlite. This isn't my first grow but it is my first shotgun grow. All my other grows i saw pins within 5 days. Well I do realise that they will be ready when they are ready, but I do not have a way to measure humidity. and my perlite has felt very dry since day one. Also i might add that im growing in my closet and put it on a rack that is almost to the ceiling. I have to stand on a chair just to fan/mist. I don't know if that has any effect on anything. Well let me know if something doesn't sound right. Alright well I'm about to go take all the cakes out and wet the perlite again. wish me luck =]

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: mushies r sexy]
    #15742530 - 01/31/12 12:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

7 days isn't that long.  Ive had cakes well over 2 weeks to pin.  But you said all your cakes.  Its possible its just genetics what strain?  Do you have a hygrometer in the FC?  Whats the RH then?

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: zepski]
    #15742544 - 01/31/12 12:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

7 days isn't anything if from MS. Five it another 7 days... I've waited a month on a mono-tub to pin plenty of times


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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: mushies r sexy]
    #15742568 - 01/31/12 12:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

What is the temp in the closet? To me, it sounds like you may be fanning a little to much. I only fan once a day. Thats just me, and I could be the one thats wrong. Just let them take their time and come out and play when they feel like it. lol. good luck!


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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: cwd85]
    #15742677 - 01/31/12 01:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

it is 80 degrees inside. it does not feel humid at all in my FC. Think it would be a good idea to wet the perlite again?

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: mushies r sexy]
    #15742690 - 01/31/12 01:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

80 is a little to warm for fruiting. It should be cooler. Around 70 degrees.


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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: downhome]
    #15743104 - 01/31/12 02:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: downhome]
    #15743123 - 01/31/12 02:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I say go buy a hygrometer and toss it in there that way you are not guessing at the humidity by feel. Make sure it is adjustable.  Pets-Mart sells a few for around 6-7 that are adjustable if not there walmart sells them they are by the humidifiers.  I know walmart is bad blah blah. 

But if you want online at the top of the page there is a link for amazon search of hygrometers (shroomery i assume gets sponsor money from this)

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The same link

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: zepski]
    #15743595 - 01/31/12 04:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Did you give it a week for consolidation?


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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: Galaxie500]
    #15743738 - 01/31/12 05:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Did you give it a week for consolidation?




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I have 12 cakes in a SG FC, that have been there for about a week. No pins whatsoever on any cakes. I let all of them consolidate for a week before dunk and roll. I have been fanning 6-8 times a day, mist 4-5 times. and I  followed the tek to build the FC exactly. I have about 5 inches of perlite. This isn't my first grow but it is my first shotgun grow. All my other grows i saw pins within 5 days. Well I do realise that they will be ready when they are ready, but I do not have a way to measure humidity. and my perlite has felt very dry since day one. Also i might add that im growing in my closet and put it on a rack that is almost to the ceiling. I have to stand on a chair just to fan/mist. I don't know if that has any effect on anything. Well let me know if something doesn't sound right. Alright well I'm about to go take all the cakes out and wet the perlite again. wish me luck =]




Yep. He did...

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: zepski]
    #15743894 - 01/31/12 06:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

btw i might mention not all the cakes have been in for a week. 2 have been in for 7 days, 4 cake have been in for 6 days. And the rest have been in for less than 5. Just worried that if they don't have enough RH and dont get it soon, i could get some low yields.

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: mushies r sexy]
    #15743907 - 01/31/12 06:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

just got an interesting idea. Ok so if maybe if i take two cakes out of the FC that were put in the same day and transfer them to a poor mans setup, (2 liter) and watch and see if they fruit before the other ones. Then maybe i will see if there is something wrong with my sgfc

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: mushies r sexy]
    #15743919 - 01/31/12 06:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well all I can say is either stick with the program or mist more. If this is your first time with a shotgun FC you might have too many holes, ergo too much FAE. Try misting more or blocking holes.

Personally I'd recommend sticking with your current regimen. That way you know for sure whether or not your current proportions of FAE:RH is adequate for fruiting mushroom. If you increase your misting now and you still fail you wouldn't know whether or not your original regimen worked or not. If you stick with it and if fails then you know for sure and can do better next time.

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15747518 - 02/01/12 02:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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7 days isn't anything if from MS. Give it another 7 days... I've waited a month on a mono-tub to pin plenty of times




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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15747596 - 02/01/12 02:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I am pretty new, but my understanding is to fruit, you have to have light, high humidity and Fresh Air Exchange(FAE). From your description, I think you may be missing one or more of the three.  In your closet, I doubt it is getting much light, if any at all.  Put a small flourescent lamp in there for some light. Next, maybe a small fan to keep the air circulating.  Even though you are opening it up and fanning it, it may not be enough. If you can not get a small fan, maybe a fish tank air pump?  Not sure if that would make a difference in an enclosed closet but worth a try. Last you said your perlite felt dry? If that is the case, than I would lay money down your Relative Humidity is way to low. Perlite should fell damp to the touch. My hands always feel damp after touching perlite.  If your hand is coming away dry, you need to add more water to the perlite, a lot more.  It can hold a lot.

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: crimsondrac]
    #15747616 - 02/01/12 02:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I am pretty new, but my understanding is to fruit, you have to have light, high humidity and Fresh Air Exchange(FAE). From your description, I think you may be missing one or more of the three.  In your closet, I doubt it is getting much light, if any at all.  Put a small flourescent lamp in there for some light. Next, maybe a small fan to keep the air circulating.  Even though you are opening it up and fanning it, it may not be enough. If you can not get a small fan, maybe a fish tank air pump?  Not sure if that would make a difference in an enclosed closet but worth a try. Last you said your perlite felt dry? If that is the case, than I would lay money down your Relative Humidity is way to low. Perlite should fell damp to the touch. My hands always feel damp after touching perlite.  If your hand is coming away dry, you need to add more water to the perlite, a lot more.  It can hold a lot.




I fruit all of my oysters from a closet Mono setup. I get plenty of FAE if I face my fan in that dirrection.


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15747924 - 02/01/12 04:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

imo, only fan 2-3 x a day, rewet the perlite, and find some way to drop that temp to as close as you can to 72f. a drop in  temp is one of the ways you tell myc "it's time to start fruiting!" that's why it's so important to incubate at ~82f and drop the temp 10 degrees down to ~72f. if u can't control the temp it should be fine it just may take longer. but still do the other things i mentioned. (imo :P) best of luck to u friend!

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: iliketheorb]
    #15747931 - 02/01/12 04:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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that's why it's so important to incubate at ~82f and drop the temp 10 degrees down to ~72f.




That is very much outdated info...

74F is the "desired temp" and i've colonized cakes/jars in 50-65 degree basement temps and fruited at 65 degrees with no issues


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15750099 - 02/02/12 12:35 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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that's why it's so important to incubate at ~82f and drop the temp 10 degrees down to ~72f.




That is very much outdated info...

74F is the "desired temp" and i've colonized cakes/jars in 50-65 degree basement temps and fruited at 65 degrees with no issues



  c'mon man, ur just nit pickin.. i said "~72" the ~ sign signifies "approximately"  and immediately after the sentence of mine that u quoted i said "but if u cant control the temp it should be fine." but u didnt include that part when u quoted me.. im new here in these forums and i don't want to have bad blood between me and anyone but it kinda seems like you posted that just to make urself sound smart at somebody elses (my) expense, i mean nothing you said even conflicted any thing i           
said u just minda repeated it, that being said i think it was both childish and rude of u to say that it was outdated info.. is that how u got that high # of posts? goin around tellin people theyre rong then jus basically repeating what they said??
  said you kinda just repeated it.

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Re: 7 days in fc no pinning, [Re: iliketheorb]
    #15750146 - 02/02/12 12:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've said time and time again, that cakes should be left in the jar all the way up until the very beginning of pin formation. My first few grows were frustrating to no end because of all the waiting. I figure, if you're going to be just waiting for pins anyway, leave the cakes in the cleanest conditions possible (i.e. in the jar) while waiting.

because of the results I've enjoyed in the past, I always wait for pins to form while still in the jar before birthing PF cakes.


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