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racKbar
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Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie
#15743539 - 01/31/12 04:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Im using shroom wizards growing guide and after you boil the vermiculite and brown rice flour in a jar you put the spores in them which he uses spore prints but it seems for this type of grow it sounds better to use prints instead of the syringe. Ive look at the sites sponsors and they only sell syringes and it looks like you get more spores from prints too.
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hellokitty
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: racKbar]
#15743558 - 01/31/12 04:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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what is your question? drink much?
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slapphappypill
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: racKbar]
#15743571 - 01/31/12 04:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you can use a syringe for this no problem. you can get 12 1/2 pint cakes out of that easy.
After you grow your own, you can take the caps and make your own prints, and have as many as you want!
as far as brf jars go, it's easier to use the syringe, and use prints for making syringes, or dropping spores to agar plates
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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
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CircleofFifths
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: racKbar]
#15743630 - 01/31/12 05:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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racKbar said: Im using shroom wizards growing guide and after you boil the vermiculite and brown rice flour in a jar you put the spores in them which he uses spore prints but it seems for this type of grow it sounds better to use prints instead of the syringe. Ive look at the sites sponsors and they only sell syringes and it looks like you get more spores from prints too.
I'm assuming by "boil", you are referring to "steaiming" the jar?
Anyhow how would you get spores from a print past your dry verm layer and into your sub without opening the jar? or without a syringe at all for that fact?
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slapphappypill
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: CircleofFifths]
#15743772 - 01/31/12 05:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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CircleofFifths said:
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racKbar said: Im using shroom wizards growing guide and after you boil the vermiculite and brown rice flour in a jar you put the spores in them which he uses spore prints but it seems for this type of grow it sounds better to use prints instead of the syringe. Ive look at the sites sponsors and they only sell syringes and it looks like you get more spores from prints too.
I'm assuming by "boil", you are referring to "steaiming" the jar?
Anyhow how would you get spores from a print past your dry verm layer and into your sub without opening the jar? or without a syringe at all for that fact?
Thats why he is asking us...
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze....
FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!
I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: slapphappypill]
#15743821 - 01/31/12 05:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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do not use that tek unless you want to fail, I read it, it's not good. Try evilmushroom 666's take on pf cakes or shae 25's pf done right
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: SomeGuy]
#15744144 - 01/31/12 06:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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SomeGuy said: Try evilmushroom 666's take on pf cakes or shae 25's pf done right
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senorcafe


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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: SomeGuy]
#15744353 - 01/31/12 07:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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SomeGuy said: do not use that tek unless you want to fail, I read it, it's not good. Try evilmushroom 666's take on pf cakes or shae 25's pf done right
or why not go with the good ol PF tek.
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: senorcafe]
#15744919 - 01/31/12 10:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Agreed....its allmost fool proof
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SomeGuy
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: smitty5606]
#15746287 - 02/01/12 08:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/8687/Shroom-Wizards-Grow-Guide here's the link we need to get this taken down, honestly.
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Step 1 Remove the jars from the box they were purchased in, wash them in warm soapy water, rinse well and dry. In a large mixing bowl measure one cup of "organic" brown rice flour and three cups of vermiculite. Mix these two ingredients together with a large spoon until they are well combined, then add one cup of water and continue mixing until everything is equally combined. Spoon this mixture equally into six of your canning jars and put the lids on them (the rubber seal can be facing up or down). Repeat this procedure for the other six jars
1. he mixed the verm and the brf, and THEN added the water. A great way to get a clunmpy sub, with bad texture. Please add the water to the verm and THEN add the brf, if you want it turn out good. 2. He just put the sub in a jar and put a lid on it. There is no verm layer and no holes in the lid, this ain't gonna work
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Step 2 Right before you place your jars into the pot you will need to loosen the lids slightly to prevent the jars from cracking during the boiling cycle. Place as many jars as will fit into the pot (standing up) without forcing. Slowly add water to the pot until the level comes up half-way on the jars. Place the pot on a burner and bring it slowly to a boil using medium high heat. Put the lid on the pot, reduce heat to medium to keep a low boil going and leave it alone for 30 minutes. When the 30 minutes are up remove the pot from the heat and "leave the lid on" until the pot is warm to the touch without burning your hand (do not be tempted to peek under the lid). When warm to the touch you can remove the lid and quickly remove each jar and tighten the lid down immediately, this is to keep invading spores from entering the jars through the loose lids. If you could not fit all twelve jars in the pot at one time, you can now repeat this process as many times as it takes to get all of your jars sterilized.
1. DO NOT worry about loosening the lids, I promise they won't bust, thats proposturous 2. He boiled them for 30 minutes. I know that is not enough time. Multiply by 3. Go for 90 minutes I could go through here and point out a couple of problems with each step. this tek is bunk The guy even says, "you wanna see white mold growing in the jars"....Really?
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: SomeGuy]
#15746438 - 02/01/12 09:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've heard that shroomwizards guide sucks... But yeah, how do you expect to get spores from a print into your jars without a syringe?
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SomeGuy
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: trophycase]
#15746443 - 02/01/12 09:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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he wants you to open the jar and scrape them off the print into it, in open air also there is no GE in his tek with solid lids
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crimsondrac
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: SomeGuy]
#15746572 - 02/01/12 09:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Goto mushroomvideos.com. Look at BRF/PF Tek parts 1-4. That is the gospel. Learn that and everything else become clearer.
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Shroom_Goon
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Re: Can i use a spore syringe?? newbie [Re: crimsondrac]
#15746613 - 02/01/12 10:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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This was the first tek I pointed out in Evilmushroom's Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page thread, and that was months ago. How was it still up? That tek is completely horrible. I was going to use it as a noob as well, but after reading it a few times I was just scratching my head.
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