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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: ]
    #1568812 - 05/22/03 09:52 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Red Pill = Red Mushroom..... Amanitas

Blue Pill = Blue Mushroom.... Psilocybe

I stole this from a Radio Interview I heard of James Arthur's..

Interesting ideas.

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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: ]
    #1569206 - 05/22/03 12:49 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I was so high when I watched it, I barely remember it. :tongue:


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: NFNF]
    #1569215 - 05/22/03 12:52 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


Why would you see it stoned?


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: Murex]
    #1569337 - 05/22/03 01:28 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Because it's fun to watch movies stoned?


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: Murex]
    #1569412 - 05/22/03 01:46 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

sweet. anyone else?  :laugh:


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Offlinejohnnyfive
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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1569469 - 05/22/03 02:00 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

what are you going to do about it?

I HAVE FUCKING NO IDEA. im a lost mother fucker, i don't know up from down, i just "Go with it"

Should i get a job, should i go to school. Should i go homeless??

I DON'T KNOW!, i have to ask what would you do if you believed, in "the matrix"?


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1570146 - 05/22/03 06:49 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

well it seems as though. there is not much you can do if you dont have a job or anything like that. and personally i dont think i am developed to manifest anything so great a change to see anything happen tomorrow. and because of that i keep my job, i keep on going to school. The more i learn about the world the more i can learn how to manipulate it, and when i can do that, then the real fun will begin. The way our society operates, is very much like a matrix, a "social matrix". and i think the first thing you have to free is the people. So i do what i can to make that happen. im affecting the matrix. Im a lost mother fucker too johnny. but if i believed i could do more... i still think i would be doing this. unless i had a reality to "wake up" to that enabled me to do much more than i can now. but maybe we could find a way i dont know. if i am, i dont know. if im going there... i dont knnow. im much like you... just going with the flow of things i guess. I have "visions", and sometimes i just dont like how my days turn out. But i have a feeling inside that if i do follow these feelings, these "visions", maybe one day that dream and vision will be so strong, i will meet myself with that vision in whatever i do. if my ability to be truthful to myself while still being nice to others, why i do what i can from going to college, i will think i have changed the "matrix". im a dreamer... but im also very much a person in tune with "reality". if i can combine them both... maybe i just might make my dreams come true. i think of morpheus's quote near the end of reloaded when Niobe questions if neo is the one and that if not tomorrow they could all die. then Morpheus replies " we could die tomorrow... but how would that be different from any other day?" i dont know if thats exact... but the point is. our world is just like this matrix, its a system, with rules and game and various programs. with people ffighting for control. people are asleep. people are bliss in ignorance. our world suffers because of it. without a dream for tomorrow there would be no hope, there would be no freedom. without dreams, i think we are incapable of manifesting our own future.


FYI - Morpheus is the god of dreams in greek mythology.


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: NFNF]
    #1570411 - 05/22/03 08:47 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

I was so high when I watched it, I barely remember it.




Yea, the movie led me through many important insights, which I forgot immediately after leaving the theater, on account of my heavy marijuana intake. However I didn't forget everything. One thing I realized in the Architect scene, was that Neo is a computer program. Thats why the TV's could tell all his possible reactions, and thats why the Architect said that the difference between Neo, and the others, is that he felt Love. This is also why Neo was able to come back to life.

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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: Remy]
    #1570455 - 05/22/03 09:08 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


That thought had crossed my mind as well.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: Murex]
    #1570462 - 05/22/03 09:09 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

"Thats why the TV's could tell all his possible reactions"

werent those his past reactions?>


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1570512 - 05/22/03 09:27 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

there seemed to be more reactions than just 6. neo being a program this would explain a problem I have, which is if neo is a human that has still been hooked up to the matirx, why wouldn't the computers kill his body?

where would neo go if he choose the "reset" option? the architect says that he gets to choose people to rebuild, does that mean that he would say in the 'real world'? then how does he keep coming back to the matrix?

It seems that the intent of the movie was to make both interpretations equally problematic, and neo being a program seems to be a solution- - but this fucks with the whole premise of the matrix, which is that the computers need heat - - why trick other programs? just to be sadistic?


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: Malachi]
    #1572645 - 05/23/03 04:16 PM (21 years, 30 days ago)

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It seems that the intent of the movie was to make both interpretations equally problematic, and neo being a program seems to be a solution- - but this fucks with the whole premise of the matrix, which is that the computers need heat - - why trick other programs? just to be sadistic? 




Not quite. Perhaps this had to do with the whole thing about programs breaking free. You see a program is designed for a certain purpose. One program might pump the water that keeps everyone alive  :grin: Neo is simply a program designed for a purpose, and he hasn't broken free (or maybe hes trying to break free) It wouldn't be sadistic or purposeless, because Neo is simply performing what he is programmed to do. 

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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: Remy]
    #1572845 - 05/23/03 05:41 PM (21 years, 30 days ago)

then couldnt you say we are programmed. Most normally drugged out by the mass media. The plugs of "society". We all seem to our own program. our routines. AKA "who we are". maybe when we can break free from who we think we are. and realize that we constantly change. and that we can cause change. will we be "free". but to me this doesnt seem too much different than the matrix. maybe every single person in the system is the matrix. The minds who arent free are a part of the "controllers" the agents the sentinels etc. I think its a fight for who is in control. who can win the power to govern the machines. The oracle, a program helping the humans. The machines are a medium, but they also posses an intelligence, an intelligence fighting off the humans or the Anomaly. which i think is neo. a human with the ability to know ALL MACHINES. his anomaly, allows him the freedom from the machines. i dont know if this is what you are talking about, its kind of rough, but i think thats my interpretation of it anyway.


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1573615 - 05/23/03 11:06 PM (21 years, 30 days ago)


If there have been 6 other Neos, then wouldn't the Archetect have to be a program? I couldn';t possably be able to live that long, would he? I mean he is an old man, but I donno.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: Murex]
    #1573925 - 05/24/03 01:14 AM (21 years, 30 days ago)

does that make this NEO 007?!?! he he


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Re: Discussion: 4 thoze who have seen Reloaded [Re: Murex]
    #1574138 - 05/24/03 05:57 AM (21 years, 30 days ago)

The architect was a program.


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