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Javadog
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Paneolus Question
#15725944 - 01/27/12 05:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hello all,
We have all read that Pans like thinner subs.
I have a filter patch bag of an hpoo+verm+coffee+bran+gypsum substrate consolidating with Pan Cyan Hawaiian that I will need to fruit soon.
I have broken up such a sub and laid the results into trays for fruiting, and so I know that this can work.
...but I want to consider fruiting it in the sack, to reduce the chances of contamination.
(that was Tampa anyway)
So, I wanted to ask the forum just how important is this requirement?
Will a 4-6" sub of Pans fruit decently?
What is the optimal sub depth?
(I expect so, but wanted to poll the team)
Take care,
JD
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stonesun
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Re: Paneolus Question [Re: Javadog]
#15725989 - 01/27/12 05:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Substrate depth was about 3": http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13275189#13275189 And in this bag +4": http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13301383#13301383
So no, it isn't a requirement. 2" is ideal but 4-6" will work just fine too. Also, it's spelled PanAeolus... I know you've had hard time getting a clean spawn of this species, so I'm really crossing my fingers for you to fruit it at last!
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Javadog
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Re: Paneolus Question [Re: stonesun]
#15726050 - 01/27/12 05:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks SS!
Ah yes, the old greek ae combo....it is pronounced like the long e, but my bad. :0)
I have had much better luck with my current challenges (Tampa, Jalisco, and Pans) since I got better genetics. (at least one from you, and the Jalisco from Primal, I think)
I have four perfectly clean Jalisco blocks in SGFCs and the GH and six consolidating that I am not going to touch unless they fruit in-bago or I get some dang prints from the first four!
I have about 10 various Tampa tubs about as well.
I will not be denied! :0)
Take care, and thanks for the time bro.
JD
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ManicMongrel
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Re: Paneolus Question [Re: Javadog]
#15737657 - 01/30/12 11:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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In my experience, broken up subs will fruit fairly easy as long as they recover quick enough. If it gets just a little too dry, or a sudden high temperature change happens, its often wasted.
On the other hand, Ive had subs that has gone dormant for weeks, then only to start a fruiting frenzy when the mold attacks. The long consolidation makes them absurdly potent, and yes thats compared to the wild ones I got the print from in the first place . Happens more often with the pans I got in Indonesia.
Good luck!
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Javadog
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Thank you for taking the time.
I have 26 very clean PF-Tek cakes of Pan Cyan Hawaiian as well, and will be trying the break up and case approach with some of those.
I will just case my block for this first pass.
Take care,
JD
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