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OfflineKombuchaMushPeep
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which substrate is best?
    #1573663 - 05/24/03 08:21 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

i've used the brown rice flour method and i'd like to try something new
which substrate is the best one to use?
is birdseed much different?


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: KombuchaMushPeep]
    #1573698 - 05/24/03 08:29 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

dude birth a cake first


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: KombuchaMushPeep]
    #1573704 - 05/24/03 08:30 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

If you want to step up to grains, you need a pressure cooker, and you might want quart jars.
Once you have one.. birdseed is a good substrate, as is rye.


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Offlinejakeholman
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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1573715 - 05/24/03 08:32 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

instead of stepping up to grains-need PC-then just spawn some poo with those pf cakes. aged cow dung gives amazing results.
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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: jakeholman]
    #1573763 - 05/24/03 08:51 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Shit hands down bro...


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: ATWAR]
    #1574032 - 05/24/03 11:50 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I'm thinking about stepping up too bulk myself...I like the idea that you pasteurise it instead of having too get a pc for sterlizing grain...I'm curious tho...how good is straw? I can get tons of it(and shit) for free...but I'm trying too stay away from shit if I can...something about cooking up shit in my kitchen don't sit right with me :laugh:


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: KombuchaMushPeep]
    #1574173 - 05/24/03 03:59 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

i've used the brown rice flour method and i'd like to try something new
which substrate is the best one to use?
is birdseed much different?



like shroomism asid, if you want to move onto grains, you will need a pc.
millet is a great starter because it isnt as contam prone as is rye.


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: ]
    #1574175 - 05/24/03 04:03 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

I'm thinking about stepping up too bulk myself...I like the idea that you pasteurise it instead of having too get a pc for sterlizing grain...I'm curious tho...how good is straw? I can get tons of it(and shit) for free...but I'm trying too stay away from shit if I can...something about cooking up shit in my kitchen don't sit right with me :laugh: 




the cow shit you want should be thoroughly dry,
and shouldnt smell even while cooking...
also, the type of straw you should aquire is 'wheat straw'
straw produces some big ass fruits...try combining coco-fiber as a casing layer...
good luck. 


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: ]
    #1574187 - 05/24/03 04:18 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Use worm castings. It basically is shit, but it doesn't smell. It seems just like a real dark rich soil. Try using popcorn as a grain. It's real easy to use.


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: kjb1891]
    #1574276 - 05/24/03 06:19 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

pop corn kicks ass and man it colonizes fast as hell


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OfflineKombuchaMushPeep
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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: FallenShroom]
    #1574314 - 05/24/03 06:51 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

thanks for the info . i think i'll try the grains first since i already have a pressure cooker
what's a good recipe for a casing layer?


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: KombuchaMushPeep]
    #1574408 - 05/24/03 08:18 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

50% peat + 50% verm with a lil lime added, or 60% coco coir + 40% verm.


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: kjb1891]
    #1575628 - 05/25/03 09:02 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

>>I'm thinking about stepping up too bulk myself...I like the idea that you pasteurise >it instead of having too get a pc for sterlizing grain...I'm curious tho...how good is >straw? I can get tons of it(and shit) for free...but I'm trying too stay away from >shit if I can...something about cooking up shit in my kitchen don't sit right with me

straw=big fruits w/only one flush. and if you can get it for free, then hopefully its a field of cows where you can go look for what you want. you want aged cow dung. the test to do when looking around is everything white is aged (supposedly the white is bacteria that supposedly is the stuff you want to keep when pasteurizing. the next test to do when you find something white is to pick it up (hopefully gloved hands) and give it a big sniff. amazingly enough, aged shit smells GREAT, and you wont have to worry about it in your kitchen-afoaf has done the same thing, though he recommends an open window, hehe.\

>>what's a good recipe for a casing layer?
>defenitely verm and coco is the best one to use-lotsa water retention and airy also.

>>Use worm castings. It basically is shit, but it doesn't smell. It seems just like a >real dark rich soil.
aged shit doesnt smell bad either, looks like dark rich soil, and smells like nice fertilized earth after a rain. hehehe
Jake H


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Offlinefugu
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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: jakeholman]
    #1575725 - 05/25/03 10:08 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

jake i will give you bro millions of shroomms for that big ,long and userfriend sentences.


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Re: which substrate is best? [Re: fugu]
    #1575867 - 05/25/03 12:23 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

hows the potency from straw?


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