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Offlinebananaman
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December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation
    #15727621 - 01/28/12 12:04 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

I don't think anything apocalyptic will happen, but maybe a spiritual transformation across the world could take place.

I don't know how, but I am optimistic.

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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: bananaman]
    #15727628 - 01/28/12 12:07 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

If you're optimistic about the future being different does that mean you're pessimistic about the present?



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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: Kickle]
    #15727643 - 01/28/12 12:12 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

Maybe a little bit


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: bananaman]
    #15727675 - 01/28/12 12:23 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

I think something will happen in accordance with the Mayan Calender.

No, the heavens won't tear open, and demons won't consume the world in Hellfire.

But someone, somewhere; being the cocky asshole they are, will want to be the guy who made something happen on Dec 21 2012. And that thing will cause a global shit-storm. And that thing will be the thing.


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: AlephMemShin]
    #15727695 - 01/28/12 12:32 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

According to Hinduism there are different ages of clarity. Some think that 2012 is the turning point, possibly a powerful one, into a prophesied Golden Age. That would be swell for mankind in general, but I ain't waitin' for any slowpokes(Ha I might be one) and am getting down to the inner business rather than trying to cram. Peace


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: Kickle]
    #15727863 - 01/28/12 01:24 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: PowerPlants]
    #15727864 - 01/28/12 01:24 AM (12 years, 3 days ago)

Yeah and probably for the best.. I don't believe in any golden age coming just yet. From what I understand the Kali yuga doesn't transition staight into its opposite but goes in gradual transition to the golden age.. although it seems ot depend on whos conception of the ages we are talking about.

I expect things to get worse for awhile after 2012. If anything we are in for tough times for some time.. there should be a mini perioid of a "spiritual dawn" soon tho.. but in hinduism those ages are massive, millions of years.


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: soldatheero]
    #15728512 - 01/28/12 08:48 AM (12 years, 2 days ago)

i have read that kali-yug is not expected to end for another 400,000 years or something like that. each age in the vedic system lasts "as long as it would take for a mountain to turn to dust, if one man wearing the finest silk rubbed against it once a year"


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: Luueschen]
    #15728620 - 01/28/12 09:32 AM (12 years, 2 days ago)



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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: bananaman]
    #15728623 - 01/28/12 09:32 AM (12 years, 2 days ago)

here's a post that Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche justed posted today on facebook about 2012 etc. :

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Some say the dark age, age of vice, Kaliyuga, is here now, or at least coming soon. Some even fear that at the end of 2012 the world as we know it will end. What determines if an age is dark or golden? What are the symptoms or omens? Earthquakes, violet skies, meteoric activity, these are not the omens of doomsday as we are made to believe. Likewise, cherub's flying, a sound economy, freedom of information, peaceful times are also not necessarily signs of a golden age. The age of light is said to be when people value empathy and forgiveness, when they have a willingness to see other people's view, and are contented with what they have. When such values are systematically sabotaged, then you can say that the dawn of the doomsday has begun. When we look at a harmless beggar as a pest and envy billionaires who routinely destroy the earth,we are inviting doomsday to come.

Like Buddha taught, everything is dependant on cause and condition. Dark and golden ages are no exception. They are not predestined, nor are they random or chaotic. Destiny is conditioned, Chief among the causes and conditions is one's own individual self, you can create your destiny. Your choices are your destiny. What and how we are now depends on what and how we have been in the past. What and how we will be in the future depends on what and how we are now.

Shakyamuni with his lotus feet may approach your doorstep for alms but if we keep on being obsessed with Patek Philipe watches, fame or friends, or six pack abs, then Buddha's truth is an annoyance, an inconvenient truth.

Even though we may be in midst of Kaliyuga and are subject to endless causes and conditions of the dark age—easily distracted and confined to thinking of our own self preservation, aspiring to reach benchmarks based on materialistic, consumerist values—we can take advantage of it. It is said that during the degenerate times, the compassion of the Buddhas and bodhisattvas ever more stronger. A savvy spiritual person could take advantage of that opportunity. The dark age can be a reminder of the urgency and preciousness of the Buddha, dharma, and sangha.

As beings that are dependant on conditions, we need to search for light, and cultivate the conditions that will brings light. We need constant reminding of the opposite of materialism. For that we need the image of the Buddha, the sound of the dharma, and the structure of the sangha.

In the past few years, we have lost some of the greatest appearances of the Buddha, such as Kyabje Trulshik Rinpoche, and Mindroling Trichen Rinpoche and Penor Rinpoche, who were all great reminders. But even though their appearance has dissolved, bear in mind that their compassion does not know the meaning of limitations.

In the spirit of where there is a demand, there is supply, we should have aspirations and longing for the appearance of the Buddhas and bodhisattvas to never to cease, and—to put it in a trendy term—their swift rebirth. But this rebirth should not be limited to a Tibetan child who has been raised in a particular culture or tradition. We can wish for Buddha's rebith in all forms, even as something seemingly insignificant as the breeze, to remind us of the values of love and compassion and tolerance. We must aspire to galvanize myriad manifestations of the Buddha, not just throne-hopping, Rolls Royce-driving tulkus who are a product of nepotism.




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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: Jessica Swift]
    #15728702 - 01/28/12 10:07 AM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Nice pic. :cool:

As far at 2012 goes, I think it symbolizes more of an epoch than a single date.


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: Luueschen]
    #15728750 - 01/28/12 10:23 AM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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Luueschen said:
i have read that kali-yug is not expected to end for another 400,000 years or something like that. each age in the vedic system lasts "as long as it would take for a mountain to turn to dust, if one man wearing the finest silk rubbed against it once a year"




there are different cylcles in the Hindu calendar, that is the long cycles which doesn't really apply to 2012.

we actually aren't in Kali Yuga we're in Dwapara Yuga.  Check out Sri Yukteswar's calendar, it is the shit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Science#Yuga_Theory


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: g00ru]
    #15729188 - 01/28/12 12:36 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

---According to Sri Yukteswar, nobody wanted to announce the bad news of the beginning of the ascending Kali Yuga, so they kept adding years to the Dvapara date (at that time 2400 Dvapara) only retitling the epoch to Kali. As the Kali began to ascend again, scholars of the time recognized that there was a mistake in the date (then being called 3600+ Kali, even their texts said Kali had only 1200 years). "By way of reconciliation, they fancied that 1200 years, the real age of Kali, were not the ordinary years of our earth, but were so many daiva (or deva) years ("years of the gods"), consisting of 12 daiva months of 30 daiva days each, with each daiva day being equal to one ordinary solar year of our earth. Hence according to these men 1200 years of Kali Yuga must be equal to 432,000 years of our earth."

Funny thing fellas, found a calendar in my house today, must've come in through the mail. Its BottomLine's Know-It-All 2012 Calendar. HA! I have faith, we've made it through the birth pangs, let the Planets align!


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: bananaman]
    #15729480 - 01/28/12 02:10 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Nothing transformative can happen in that single day, there's just not enough time. Even the time between the harmonic convergence in 1987 and the winter solstice in 2012 is but a nanosecond on the cosmic timepiece.


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: muistrue]
    #15729891 - 01/28/12 03:54 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

i will be celebrating the winter solstice on deceber 21 whether asteroids are falling from the heavens or not.

i also think that theres gonna be mass suicides and shit like that

but fuck those people

im gettin enlightened my niggas!!!!!!!!


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: Buckthorn]
    #15729900 - 01/28/12 03:57 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

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EAPoe said:
i will be celebrating the winter solstice on deceber 21 whether asteroids are falling from the heavens or not.

i also think that theres gonna be mass suicides and shit like that

but fuck those people

im gettin enlightened my niggas!!!!!!!!




Yeah one thing that's for sure is the parties that are being thrown on that day are going be some of the most epic parties in human history. :awesomenod:


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: muistrue]
    #15731083 - 01/28/12 08:26 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

I believe that the earth's vibration is going to be immensely shifting upwards helping usher a time of love and prosperity amongst human beings, known as the messianic era of mankind or the golden age.  :smile:


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Re: December 21, 2012 - Spiritual Transformation [Re: Satan666]
    #15731148 - 01/28/12 08:38 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

i sure hope so, this planet needs to get fucked up


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